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jack Bibbo
Is FCP 7 backwards compatible?
on Jul 27, 2009 at 12:38:44 am

Or will it take all FCP 6 projects reformat them for 7 and not allow you to go back to 6.





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Russell Lasson
Re: Is FCP 7 backwards compatible?
on Jul 27, 2009 at 1:16:52 am

Nope. But you might be able to get an XML of a sequence back to FCP6.

-Russ

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Geoff Hug
Re: Is FCP 7 backwards compatible?
on Oct 11, 2010 at 3:16:36 pm

would an fcp 7 file be backwards compatible with fcp 5 via xml file? if so, any idea which one? thanks,



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walter biscardi
Re: Is FCP 7 backwards compatible?
on Oct 11, 2010 at 3:18:08 pm

[Geoff Hug] "
would an fcp 7 file be backwards compatible with fcp 5 via xml file? if so, any idea which one? thanks,"


Probably XML version 1 or 2.

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Sherril Schlesinger
Re: Is FCP 7 backwards compatible?
on Oct 24, 2010 at 5:20:28 pm

So sorry for the very late response.....you probably have it figured out by now! I haven't ever tried taking a project from FCP 7 to 5, but I'd imagine an earlier version of XML may work....try 1 and 2 and see which one opens in FCP 7.

Sherril


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Steve Eisen
Re: Is FCP 7 backwards compatible?
on Jul 27, 2009 at 1:20:41 am

Based on previous versions, no. It will let you know that the project you are opening is from a previous version of FCP. It will ask if you want to continue. When you continue do a save as and give your project a new name. If you ever need to open that project in FCP 6, you will still be able to, granted you cloned your hard drive before upgrading.

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Shane Ross
Re: Is FCP 7 backwards compatible?
on Jul 27, 2009 at 1:21:37 am

I have successfully exported a project...full project...from FCP 7 to FCP 6 just fine...via XML. Easy as pie...or is that cake?

PIECE OF CAKE!



Shane



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jack Bibbo
Re: Is FCP 7 backwards compatible?
on Jul 27, 2009 at 6:18:19 pm

Great! Thanks.



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Michael Horton
Re: Is FCP 7 backwards compatible?
on Jul 27, 2009 at 9:09:33 pm

What version XML did you use Shane?

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Shane Ross
Re: Is FCP 7 backwards compatible?
on Jul 27, 2009 at 9:11:39 pm

Version 4. Version 5 is for the current one.



Shane



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Rick Lavon
Re: Is FCP 7 backwards compatible?
on Jul 30, 2009 at 8:55:51 pm

Shane, what about codecs?...Do they have to be common to both versions?..Specifically, do AJA codecs support both versions?



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Shane Ross
Re: Is FCP 7 backwards compatible?
on Jul 30, 2009 at 9:44:45 pm

AJA doesn't do codecs. They use the Apple ones. They, like Black-Magic and Matrox, just slap their name on them so that their card will capture to them...or something like that.

Anyway, all of the current codecs will work...but none of the new ProRes codecs that come with FCP 7 will be backwards compatible....ProRes Proxy, ProRes LT, ProRes 4444...nor will the AVCIntra decoder.



Shane



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jack Bibbo
Re: Is FCP 7 backwards compatible?
on Jul 30, 2009 at 9:53:10 pm

Interesting. So if I start my project at my Studio using FCP 7 and ProRes LT, export an XML and move it to another Studio that has only FCP 6. It wont work? Did I understand that correctly?

So if I know that I will transfer stuff at a later date to another studio then use a codec that is compatible to both, like ProRes HQ.

Right?


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Shane Ross
Re: Is FCP 7 backwards compatible?
on Jul 30, 2009 at 10:16:35 pm

[jack Bibbo] "Interesting. So if I start my project at my Studio using FCP 7 and ProRes LT, export an XML and move it to another Studio that has only FCP 6. It wont work?"

Nope...wait...wait wait wait. I lie. I wanted to double check so I plugged in my drive with footage imported with the various ProRes flavors and...well, QT opened them. And then I brought them into FCP 6 and...they showed up fine.

Oh, hold on, I DON'T lie. OK, so I can see them in the browser and QT, and play them..BUT...I cannot have a sequence with those settings. When I add them to the sequence I have a big RED render bar. This is apparently because QT contains the ProRes DECODER for all the ProRes flavors (I just played them on the reception iMac and they play too), but you cannot ENCODE to those formats...nor have timeline settings.

So, you can see the footage, but you cant' work with it. You'll have to render them to plain vanilla ProRes. So the benefit is gone.

ProRes HQ should ONLY be used for high HIGH end stuff, like RED or HDCAM SR or other HIGH end 10-bit formats. There is literally NO benefit between ProRes and HQ with HDV or DVCPRO HD or AVCHD or other 8-bit formats like HDCAM.

http://forums.creativecow.net/faq/applefinalcutpro#75


Shane



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Sherril Schlesinger
Re: Is FCP 7 backwards compatible?
on Feb 17, 2010 at 3:34:55 am

Hi,

I read the thread here that FCP 7 is backwards compatible with FCP 6 using XML to export the project from FCP 7....but when I try to open the project in FCP 6.0.6 - it opens a different project that I've been working on for months....and when I try to import an XML file - I get the error message: no translation templates matching the selected XML file were found. Unable to import this file.

Can anyone weigh in on these compatibility issues? I have a huge project on FCP 6 that I simply cannot compromise in ANY way with this new FCP 7 project!!!

Any help would be appreciated.
Thanks
Shinx



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Jeremy Garchow
Re: Is FCP 7 backwards compatible?
on Jul 12, 2010 at 8:51:36 pm

[Sherril Schlesinger] "Can anyone weigh in on these compatibility issues? "

File > Import > XML will get there for you. Sounds like you are trying to import the XML file as a regular file.

Jeremy


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Sherril Schlesinger
Re: Is FCP 7 backwards compatible?
on Jul 12, 2010 at 8:58:42 pm

Hi Jeremy,
Thanks - my post was from February....I figured it out and the project is almost complete :)
Best
Sherril


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Jeremy Harmsen
Re: Is FCP 7 backwards compatible?
on Dec 30, 2010 at 6:21:45 pm

Hm.. the forum stops at a terrible place. I am in the same boat, and trying to edit a huge FCP project on an overheating macbook is very stressful. I have access to a mac pro today but it only uses FPC version 5. When I try the XML workflow to import a FCP 7 into FCP 5 it asks me for a “translation document file.” Help?


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Jeremy Garchow
Re: Is FCP 7 backwards compatible?
on Dec 30, 2010 at 6:55:08 pm

File > Import > XML. You can't just drag it in to the browser or import like a regular video file. You must use the XML import menu.


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Shane Ross
Re: Is FCP 7 backwards compatible?
on Dec 30, 2010 at 7:06:16 pm

[Jeremy Harmsen] "When I try the XML workflow to import a FCP 7 into FCP 5 it asks me for a “translation document file.” Help?"

You need to go FILE>IMPORT>XML. Then locate the XML. Not just FILE>IMPORT.

Shane

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Sherril Schlesinger
Re: Is FCP 7 backwards compatible?
on Dec 30, 2010 at 11:13:16 pm

...and make sure you are using the right version of XML...it would be an earlier version for FCP 5.


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Pierre Luc Jutras Gouin
Re: Is FCP 7 backwards compatible?
on Dec 6, 2011 at 6:04:47 pm

I know it's been a year since that thread died but for future references here is the answer to the xml template error.

In fcp7 you need to export your xml using the version 4 format. If you use the version 5 format you will get the template error when you'll try to import it in fcp6. That's because fcp6 doesn't support xml format version 5.


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Madison Premo
Re: Is FCP 7 backwards compatible?
on Jan 14, 2012 at 8:59:49 pm

I know this thread is old but seems the problem is super easy to fix.

Yes, output from FCP7 with XML4 - I had my client complain that when he opened it in FCP6 it was all offline. I simply performed 'Reconnect Media' and it all lined back up beautifully!

And for the record, this is the ONLY website that got me to the right answer.



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Christian Castillo
Re: Is FCP 7 backwards compatible?
on Jun 25, 2012 at 9:52:17 am

Awesome, this thread has been quite helpful. I'm going to be using a system with FCP 7 tomorrow, but then going back on a FCP 6 system the rest of the week, so I'll export an XML from FCP 7 using version 4 and hopefully I should be good! Thanks everybody!


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