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Michael Graziano
Mpeg-4 archival footage unrendered in timeline
on Dec 3, 2008 at 11:19:43 pm

Hi,

I'm trying to edit together some archival footage encoded (and only available) in mpeg-4 with some HDV footage I shot. I saved the mpeg-4 clips as .mov files using Quicktime. When I bring the archival files into my timeline they show up unrendered. The files work fine if I render them in the timeline, but I'm wondering if there's some easier and less time consuming fix (like changing a sequence setting or something).

Thanks


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Chris Borjis
Re: Mpeg-4 archival footage unrendered in timeline
on Dec 3, 2008 at 11:21:53 pm


convert them using mpeg stream clip to something final cut can
play in real time.




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Michael Graziano
Re: Mpeg-4 archival footage unrendered in timeline
on Dec 3, 2008 at 11:33:49 pm

right ... I'll try it.
Thanks for responding so quickly.


Do you suggest a particular format?



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Chris Borjis
Re: Mpeg-4 archival footage unrendered in timeline
on Dec 3, 2008 at 11:35:14 pm


well whatever most of your footage is, then set your
timeline sequence for that. thats the only way it will be real time if they match




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Michael Graziano
Re: Mpeg-4 archival footage unrendered in timeline
on Dec 3, 2008 at 11:53:04 pm

All of the non archival footage, which is most of it, is HDV. I could've missed it, but I didn't see an HDV export/conversion option in Mpeg streamclip. I'll keep playing with it to see. thanks


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Andrew Kimery
Re: Mpeg-4 archival footage unrendered in timeline
on Dec 3, 2008 at 11:59:29 pm

[Michael Graziano] "All of the non archival footage, which is most of it, is HDV. I could've missed it, but I didn't see an HDV export/conversion option in Mpeg streamclip. I'll keep playing with it to see. thanks "

Open the clip in MPEG Streamclip then File->Export as QuickTime, then choose the appropriate Apple HDV codec from the Compression drop down menu.


-A



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Michael Graziano
Re: Mpeg-4 archival footage unrendered in timeline
on Dec 4, 2008 at 12:04:54 am

great. Thanks andrew.



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Sean ONeil
Re: Mpeg-4 archival footage unrendered in timeline
on Dec 4, 2008 at 12:36:01 am

Unless you're mastering back to HDV tape later on, you should actually convert it to ProRes and not HDV. You'll get an orange bar but you won't get the "Unrendered" red bar.

Sean


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bill dewald
Re: Mpeg-4 archival footage unrendered in timeline
on Dec 4, 2008 at 12:45:37 am

[Sean ONeil] "Unless you're mastering back to HDV tape later on, you should actually convert it to ProRes and not HDV. You'll get an orange bar but you won't get the "Unrendered" red bar."

Assuming you have the system specs for ProRes.


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Boyd McCollum
Re: Mpeg-4 archival footage unrendered in timeline
on Dec 4, 2008 at 5:19:56 am

You could also use Compressor to transcode directly to HDV.


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Chris Borjis
Re: Mpeg-4 archival footage unrendered in timeline
on Dec 4, 2008 at 5:18:38 pm

[bill dewald] "Assuming you have the system specs for ProRes."

thats certainly an issue for capturing, (intel mac minimum) but even old G4 systems
can play back ProRes just fine.

The real computational intensive portion of ProRes is encoding it.




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Michael Graziano
Re: Mpeg-4 archival footage unrendered in timeline
on Dec 4, 2008 at 8:29:26 pm

i do have specs for pro res, but I ended up using streamclip to convert archival files to HDV 1080i60 (same as other footage) and it worked like a charm. thanks again for all the help.


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John Pale
Re: Mpeg-4 archival footage unrendered in timeline
on Dec 4, 2008 at 11:16:52 pm

[Chris Borjis] "but even old G4 systems
can play back ProRes just fine. "


Not really true. I cannot get consistent playback with a dual 2ghz G5. Its definitely not the drives...they are fast enough for uncompressed HD....its the processors that cant keep up. I can do the odd clip here and there in Pro Res, but try to do real editing and it becomes impossible.



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David Roth Weiss
Re: Mpeg-4 archival footage unrendered in timeline
on Dec 4, 2008 at 11:19:22 pm

[John Pale] "I cannot get consistent playback with a dual 2ghz G5. Its definitely not the drives...they are fast enough for uncompressed HD....its the processors that cant keep up. I can do the odd clip here and there in Pro Res, but try to do real editing and it becomes impossible."

Odd, as I have a dual 2.3ghz machine and have no issues playing ProRes.

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John Pale
Re: Mpeg-4 archival footage unrendered in timeline
on Dec 5, 2008 at 5:00:12 am

I guess its that extra .3GHZ that makes all the difference :)





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