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Joe Krause
Avid Media Composer on Apple I-Mac Set Up
on Aug 30, 2009 at 2:07:31 pm

Just Switched over from a PC to Media Composer 3.5 on an Apple I-Mac

1. Need help on Avid Media Composer set up for Apple I-Mac

A. Ran Mojo off the Firewire 800 Port off the MAC.

B. Ran the external Hard Drive for media off a USB Port.

Is this the correct set up for the MAC???

Thanks a lot.

Avid Media Composer 3.5 on I-Mac and PC
Adobe Production Premium CS3


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Scott Cumbo
Re: Avid Media Composer on Apple I-Mac Set Up
on Aug 30, 2009 at 9:13:37 pm

As far as i know, there is no approved MC setup for an Imac.
So I would say turn it on and see what you get.

Scott Cumbo
Editor
Broadway Video, NYC


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Joe Krause
Re: Avid Media Composer on Apple I-Mac Set Up
on Aug 30, 2009 at 9:36:47 pm

Yes it is approved was on the Avid Website

Totally Approved and listed on thier Site.

Thanks

Avid Media Composer 3.5 on I-Mac and PC
Adobe Production Premium CS3


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Scott Cumbo
Re: Avid Media Composer on Apple I-Mac Set Up
on Aug 30, 2009 at 11:17:39 pm

The Imac is, but not with a mojo.

Scott Cumbo
Editor
Broadway Video, NYC


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Ian McBain
Re: Avid Media Composer on Apple I-Mac Set Up
on Aug 31, 2009 at 2:46:08 pm

I wouldn't run your media through a USB connection. Is there a spare firewire connection that you could use for that?


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Tim Wilson
Re: Avid Media Composer on Apple I-Mac Set Up
on Aug 31, 2009 at 3:29:41 pm

[Ian McBain] "I wouldn't run your media through a USB connection. Is there a spare firewire connection that you could use for that?"

The issue isn't a spare firewire PORT - you need a separate firewire BUS. iMac only has one.

USB is fine. When I worked at Avid, we had all our media on USB 2 drives. Of course, media matters. But the very first demos of DNxHD were all on USB, and, like I said, pretty much everything else most of us did.

Also worth noting - iMacs were VERY popular at Avid when I was there (through 2006, right before I came to the Cow)....and those were much lower-powered. The ones today are amazing. My next desktop is definitely going to be one....

Best,
Tim

Tim Wilson
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My Blog: "Is this thing on? Oh it's on!"


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Joe Krause
Re: Avid Media Composer on Apple I-Mac Set Up
on Aug 31, 2009 at 3:51:39 pm

Hi Tim
THANKS so much for the valuable information. Can I ask a couple of questions...

1. Can I use a Firewire Hub off the 800 port:
-(1) for the Mojo
-(1) for the 800 Firewire Media Drive?

2. What FORMAT should I format the Media Drive theres no NTFS on MAC like windows, right now using FAT Format. Is there a MAC Format for Hard Drives thats like NTFS format on windows?

I've been testing the I-MAC with Mojo off the 800 Port and a USB-Firewire External Hard drive seems to work fine ===occasionally I get a slight stutter but barley

Tim if you wouldnt mind sometime would like to talk if you had
5 minutes some time. Just have a couple of questions, if not no problem.

Thanks a lot for the GREAT Info!

Joe Krause



Avid Media Composer 3.5 on I-Mac and PC
Adobe Production Premium CS3


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Tim Wilson
Re: Avid Media Composer on Apple I-Mac Set Up
on Aug 31, 2009 at 9:11:43 pm

[Joe Krause] "1. Can I use a Firewire Hub off the 800 port:
-(1) for the Mojo
-(1) for the 800 Firewire Media Drive?


No. Again, the issue is the bus - the part of the motherboard that the connections come out from. Mojo and the FW drive will each want 100% of the bandwidth.

This is true for any "big" firewire device, any NLE, any platform. For example, if you try to digitize from a camera to a FireWire drive using Sony Vegas, it's a no-go.

Your only choice is USB. Of course, if you're up for some networking, you can use Ethernet, but that's a whole other story.

2. What FORMAT should I format the Media Drive theres no NTFS on MAC like windows, right now using FAT Format. Is there a MAC Format for Hard Drives thats like NTFS format on windows?

Don't use FAT32 for the long haul. It's great for small files (MP3s, photos, etc.), and you'll bump up against its limits fast.

There are two ways to format. If you're using the drive with only the Mac, plug it in, and use the Apple Disk Utility to format it. The default is fine.

There are also programs that let you use drives from one platform on the other...but if you're going all-in on the Mac, just let the iMac take care of the formatting.

I've been testing the I-MAC with Mojo off the 800 Port and a USB-Firewire External Hard drive seems to work fine ===occasionally I get a slight stutter but barley

Good! That's what I'd expect. You may find better performance once you're no longer working in FAT32...but hey, if this is working for you, go for it!

Tim if you wouldnt mind sometime would like to talk if you had
5 minutes some time. Just have a couple of questions, if not no problem."


We have now officially exhausted my knowledge of this stuff. :-) I've been gone for years, and even when I was there, wasn't actually editing. I just happened to witness other people's desks with iMacs, and some USB drives in action. These days, I mostly edit the Creative COW Magazine.

Better to keep the conversation here, where others can chime in.


Best,
Tim


Tim Wilson
Creative Cow Magazine!

My Blog: "Is this thing on? Oh it's on!"



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dewan edwards
Re: Avid Media Composer on Apple I-Mac Set Up
on Sep 3, 2009 at 12:51:29 am


These makes me a feel better. I am looking at the I Mac also for Avid and FCP. I was looking at the 24 in with geo force GT 120. I am finally going mac


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dewan edwards
Re: Avid Media Composer on Apple I-Mac Set Up
on Sep 3, 2009 at 12:54:22 am

Any issues with HD editing on one of these?


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Daniel Edelman
Re: Avid Media Composer on Apple I-Mac Set Up
on Sep 13, 2009 at 7:36:09 pm

Hey Tim, quick question about the iMac Fire Wire: Do the firewire 400 and 800 operate on separate busses? I was hoping to use the 800 for my g-raid drive and the 400 for my DV deck.
Thanks,
Daniel

The Goods: Avid MC 2.2.15 Adrenaline, Symphony Nitris 1.6.5, Unity 3.5. HP xw8200 turn-key computers. AJ-HD1400, 1200, HDW-1800, HDW-F500, DVW-A500


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Tim Wilson
Re: Avid Media Composer on Apple I-Mac Set Up
on Sep 13, 2009 at 10:28:04 pm

[Daniel Edelman] "Do the firewire 400 and 800 operate on separate busses?"

Sorry Daniel -- no extra busses on the Mac. It's the tradeoff you get for such a sleek chassis.


tw



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Cara Meiselman
Re: Avid Media Composer on Apple I-Mac Set Up
on Oct 20, 2009 at 8:00:40 pm

Late to chime in but, will MC 3.0 on an imac work with HD footage?


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Tim Wilson
Re: Avid Media Composer on Apple I-Mac Set Up
on Oct 20, 2009 at 8:25:30 pm

Generally speaking, the iMac doesn't add any issues. The limitations will be the same as with any other system. There are small ones, like processing speed for formats like HDV and H.264 - but the big question will always be drive speed. If your drives themselves can spin fast enough, your iMac should be fine.


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