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Dave Smith
FCPX imported files = no audio
on Oct 10, 2018 at 8:13:55 pm

Hi, I'm really hoping I'm not seeing what I'm seeing. I recorded a lot of footage using 2 sennheiser lav mics with a Canon XF-400 and afterwards imported (copy to library) to FCPX. I deleted the original footage after 'seeing' the footage imported apparently okay. Now today about a week later as i start to work on the production I'm seeing all the footage has no audio tracks... at all. There is no audio config panel for any of the clips. I open the 'original' files via Reveal in Finder and they too have no audio. Same library originals opened in quicktime player, vlc... no audio. I even handbraked the originals thinking it may be a codec issue without luck.

I'm pretty positive I recorded the audio because I verified by playing back the footage while on set and could hear the audio. Plus I have done this more than once in the exact same way and it worked fine.

I think I may have checked all the import helper boxes, specifically 'remove silent audio channels' assuming it wouldn't affect channels with audio. That's the only thing I can think of that may have stripped the audio during import... so frustrated. I hope to non-existent god there's something simple I'm missing in FCP. I'm desperately trying to recover the originals from the sd card using easus recovery tool but don't have confidence... i usually format the cards for next use. Waaaah i don't want to lose my job. =\


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Jeremy Garchow
Re: FCPX imported files = no audio
on Oct 10, 2018 at 10:25:17 pm

[Dave Smith] "I deleted the original footage after 'seeing' the footage imported apparently okay. Now today about a week later as i start to work on the production I'm seeing all the footage has no audio tracks... at all."

If you deleted the footage, what are you working from?


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Dave Smith
Re: FCPX imported files = no audio
on Oct 10, 2018 at 10:27:07 pm

the footage in the final cut library that was copied during import.


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Jeremy Garchow
Re: FCPX imported files = no audio
on Oct 10, 2018 at 10:42:24 pm

I see, then you deleted the cards.

So the footage you tested first, now has no audio?


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Dave Smith
Re: FCPX imported files = no audio
on Oct 10, 2018 at 10:56:36 pm

Yes, you've got it.

I just bought ReclaimMe Data Recovery software in hopes something is salvageable from the SD card or the raid 1 Lacie. The path the data took was...

SD card > Lacie Rugged Raid 1 USB-C drive > Import (copy) to FCPX library

After moving the data from the SD to the Lacie drive and confirmed all was good (opened the files in quicktime), I deleted/formatted the cards and put them back in the camera.

Days later I imported (copy) from the Lacie to the FCPX library. I "saw" the footage in FCP (but did not listen) and deleted the footage from the Lacie. Bad move.

With all my proxy/optimized files generated, and with the 'originals' in the final cut library, I thought I was safe. It appears now the FCP library 'originals' aren't necessarily copies of the originals! At least thats what I think I'm seeing... unless I'm completely wrong about the actual original footage from the SD card having audio recorded. I think I would have noticed at some point long before getting to dropping clips into the timeline that everything was silent. I guess I'm blaming it potentially on the import process because that was the last thing that happened to the 'original' files from the Lacie.


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Dave Smith
Re: FCPX imported files = no audio
on Oct 11, 2018 at 10:50:16 pm

Strangely, I've just found more footage from a different shoot on a different day using the same method entirely that also plays no audio, shows no audio in the Inspector (neither an speaker icon at top or an audio configuration panel at all) when the clip is selected in the timeline. BUT... when I 'Reveal in Finder' the 'Final Cut Original Media' folder and play the file in Quicktime there IS audio.

I so wish the other files I opened this thread with had audio.

Can anyone confirm/deny if the file in a libary's 'Final Cut Original Media' folder are in fact exact copies of the original files? Or does clicking, for example, the 'Remove silent audio channels' actually remove channels (possibly in error) during import?

Also,,, it seems i can only post here by going to someone else's reply in my email and hitting 'reply to this message'... I can't find a Reply button when I just log into creativecow.net directly.


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Jeremy Garchow
Re: FCPX imported files = no audio
on Oct 12, 2018 at 12:42:27 am

[Dave Smith] "shows no audio in the Inspector (neither an speaker icon at top or an audio configuration panel at all) when the clip is selected in the timeline."

What about the clip in the browser?

Did you add video only to the timeline?



[Dave Smith] "Can anyone confirm/deny if the file in a libary's 'Final Cut Original Media' folder are in fact exact copies of the original files? Or does clicking, for example, the 'Remove silent audio channels' actually remove channels (possibly in error) during import? "

With that footage, FCPX rewraps the footage to .mov. I do not know of a case where this process would remove audio if there was audio there to begin with. I believe something else is going on.

Please check the clips in the browser, not the timeline.


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Jeremy Garchow
Re: FCPX imported files = no audio
on Oct 12, 2018 at 1:07:56 am

That is to say, without a bug, like remove silent audio actually removes all the audio.

I never use that feature so I’m not sure how well it works or not.


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Garri Banar
Re: FCPX imported files = no audio
on Oct 15, 2018 at 10:08:23 pm

Good Afternoon, Gents, I also have experienced this same issue with a different setup just a few days ago. I went old school miniDV into FCPX. Low and behold no audio upon import, no audio in timeline and finder too. Tried troubleshooting 101 and swapped the cable, no dice. Grabbed the footage and deleted from FCPX and said let's try iMovie as a test. Exact same thing, video yes, audio no!. What the sugah! I launched Adobe Premiere and used the Capture feature. Boom! AV coming through like a bull in a chine shop...what gives? Any feedback or solution would be greatly appreciated for FCPX.


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