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Xavier Paredes
Why can't I move 2 clips?
on Oct 4, 2018 at 6:50:44 pm
Last Edited By Xavier Paredes on Oct 4, 2018 at 6:53:09 pm

I know I can copy and paste them elsewhere, but I'd like to know why you can't move them via drag and drop.



Thanks, Xavier


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Eric Santiago
Re: Why can't I move 2 clips?
on Oct 4, 2018 at 7:07:26 pm

I take it they are Connected so they should move.
How about if you remove it from the Storyline then move?
Or use the Position "P" tool.


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Xavier Paredes
Re: Why can't I move 2 clips?
on Oct 4, 2018 at 8:42:01 pm

Using the position tool (P shortcut) doesn't work either!

Xavier


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Jeremy Garchow
Re: Why can't I move 2 clips?
on Oct 4, 2018 at 8:54:18 pm

Looks like you are selecting the clips within the right secondary as well as the secondary itself. You need to select just the shelf and not the clips (and transitions).

I hope Apple fixes the way this works because it can be rather annoying.


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Xavier Paredes
Re: Why can't I move 2 clips?
on Oct 4, 2018 at 8:56:55 pm

In the video I uploaded in my original post; am I not selecting the shelf?

Xavier


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Jeremy Garchow
Re: Why can't I move 2 clips?
on Oct 4, 2018 at 9:11:53 pm

It looks like, it, but look at how the clip and the transitions are selected in that one, and not in the one on the left.

Maybe try zoom in a little before you select.


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Xavier Paredes
Re: Why can't I move 2 clips?
on Oct 4, 2018 at 10:40:01 pm

Yes, I noticed that the transitions of one of the clips are selected but the ones for the other one aren't. I can't get FCP to select all transitions for both clips.

I tried everything I can think of. No matter what I do, it doesn't work.

Anyone else knows if this is a bug. It's really silly that FCP can't do something so basic.

Xavier


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Jeremy Garchow
Re: Why can't I move 2 clips?
on Oct 4, 2018 at 11:18:11 pm

It's possible. I'd suggest zooming in a little, or adjusting the size of the clips.

Also, a preferences trash won't hurt, either.

Jeremy


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Jeremy Garchow
Re: Why can't I move 2 clips?
on Oct 4, 2018 at 11:18:56 pm

Or try moving the left one over a little bit, and then selecting the shelves.


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Xavier Paredes
Re: Why can't I move 2 clips?
on Oct 4, 2018 at 11:27:41 pm

I tried zooming in.

I also tried separating them.

Nothing works. Really strange.

Xavier


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Jeremy Garchow
Re: Why can't I move 2 clips?
on Oct 5, 2018 at 12:44:38 am

Trash prefs yet?

Quit FCPX, hold down option-command and launch FCPX.


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Bret Williams
Re: Why can't I move 2 clips?
on Oct 5, 2018 at 6:30:42 am

Are you shift clicking? looks like you’re shift clicking the second one, which would have the effect of selecting everything between the first selection, and the second selection. you want to cmd click the second one.

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Xavier Paredes
Re: Why can't I move 2 clips?
on Oct 5, 2018 at 2:54:53 pm

Jesus Christ. Command-clicking worked!

Thanks!

Xavier


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Bret Williams
Re: Why can't I move 2 clips?
on Oct 5, 2018 at 3:05:03 pm

Welcome to the annoyance of selecting containers! You have to be very specific with containers. If you shift click it’s the equivalent of a lasso/marquee selection which will grab the clips and the container. FCPX wants one or the other. Either you want to move the clips in the container out of the container, or you want to move the container of clips. Can’t do both. So if you wanted to move a large selection of stuff including clips and containers, you’d have to cmd click all the containers, but then you could cmd lasso the clips in larger pieces. Not always so efficient that magnetic timeline.

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Xavier Paredes
Re: Why can't I move 2 clips?
on Oct 5, 2018 at 3:11:27 pm

Appreciate the time you've taken to explain. 👍

Xavier


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Bret Williams
Re: Why can't I move 2 clips?
on Oct 5, 2018 at 3:36:08 pm

I wish Apple would explain their thinking. OBVIOUSLY if you marquee select everything in a container, or shift click as you did, it should select the container, or allow you to move all contents as a container if all contents are selected and the container is selected. This just seems like basic DUH to me. It should at least be the default. Send them a feedback. Not that you should have to for something this simple but it's been ignored for too long. I could swear something changed a few years ago and I just adapted and moved on.

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Xavier Paredes
Re: Why can't I move 2 clips?
on Oct 5, 2018 at 3:56:39 pm

There are tons of things I will Apple would change in FCP X. Like for example, I don't like the autosave. Why? let's say I do a lot of edits but then it gets hairy. In other programs, I can REVERT or close without saving and go back to my last "safe save". Not possible in FCP afaik.

Another one: If I do an edit and then undo it, for some reason the timeline sometimes scrolls over to another place when I hit CMD-Z. You know what I'm talking about I think. Try it.

Maybe we should make a webpage called "Thinks I hate about FCP" or "FCP X Fixes wishlist".

I can go on...

In any case, I have submitted a request. Thanks again.

Xavier


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Jeremy Garchow
Re: Why can't I move 2 clips?
on Oct 5, 2018 at 4:05:59 pm

[Xavier Paredes] "There are tons of things I will Apple would change in FCP X. Like for example, I don't like the autosave. Why? let's say I do a lot of edits but then it gets hairy. In other programs, I can REVERT or close without saving and go back to my last "safe save". Not possible in FCP afaik."

Get in the habit of duplicating your projects as Snapshots. This is a manual save, of sorts. I have mapped the save Project as snapshot to command-s, just like the old days.

You can also open backups of your FCPX Libraries, but that auto increments, so you may lose more than you need.

Jeremy


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Xavier Paredes
Re: Why can't I move 2 clips?
on Oct 5, 2018 at 4:25:19 pm

Understood but another reason why I really miss the manual save is for example if I'm testing something (an edit, an effect or transition, etc.) and FCP decides to crash midway, FCP just saved a state of my project that I wasn't sure of keeping yet.

But in response to your suggestion: Saving projects as snapshots clutter my library. This would be ok if we had folders which we can organize but we don't.

Xavier


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Jeremy Garchow
Re: Why can't I move 2 clips?
on Oct 5, 2018 at 4:48:56 pm

[Xavier Paredes] "But in response to your suggestion: Saving projects as snapshots clutter my library. This would be ok if we had folders which we can organize but we don't."

I use Smart Collections.

I have one that is Projects only, and I filter out the word Snapshot.

Then I have another that is Projects only, and I filter it to include only the word Snapshot.

I also have one that filters final timelines, with the word "final" in it.

Like this:




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Bret Williams
Re: Why can't I move 2 clips?
on Oct 5, 2018 at 5:25:49 pm

I do the same. Except no Final collection. Nothing is ever final. You're just asking for trouble when you start doing that.

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Jeremy Garchow
Re: Why can't I move 2 clips?
on Oct 5, 2018 at 6:14:46 pm

[Bret Williams] "I do the same. Except no Final collection. Nothing is ever final. You're just asking for trouble when you start doing that."

That's why I name them "FinalCandidate_v1"

:)


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Bret Williams
Final Post on this thread candidate v1
on Oct 6, 2018 at 4:04:54 am

I agree.

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Bret Williams
Re: Why can't I move 2 clips?
on Oct 5, 2018 at 4:28:47 pm

I was just going to add that the autosave benefits FAR FAR FAR FAR FAR FAR FAR FAR FAR outweigh any downsides. Look at it this way... old school you could work for half and hour, half a day, all day, and forget to save an lose it all. BUT hey you could always revert to a previous version. New school, do your diligence and make snapshots, which would have also been the responsible thing in other apps too, and move on. Like Jeremy says, it auto-backups every 15 minutes so you can always press undo for up to 15 minutes. ☺

And as far as undo jumping around, I used to see that a lot in version 1.x, but either they fixed 99% of the problem, or it was a way I was doing things. I think sometimes it has to do with the playhead/selection. Sometimes you can be making an edit where the playhead isn't or you're making a change where the selection isn't or something like that and on undo the screen jumps to one or the other. Doesn't happen much to me at all anymore.

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Robin S. Kurz
Re: Why can't I move 2 clips?
on Oct 7, 2018 at 8:54:33 am

[Bret Williams] "I was just going to add that the autosave benefits FAR FAR FAR FAR FAR FAR FAR FAR FAR outweigh any downsides."

I'd add an additional FAR to that. Since I can't remember when I let heard "DAMMIT!! It saved all my work before it crashed!" as opposed to "DAMMIT! I just lost HOURS of work due to a crash!" which you hear constantly. I recommend not trying to make software adapt to you (which is never going to happen to any major degree anyway), but rather simply adapt to the software. With snapshots and smart collections you not only have exactly what you need, but much much more beyond that that you will not find anywhere else. There is absolutely no need for folders (beyond the ones that already exist) if you're "holding it right". 😏



[Bret Williams] "it auto-backups every 15 minutes so you can always press undo for up to 15 minutes."

Both right and wrong. The backups are generated (roughly) every 15 minutes, then actually eventually consolidated into daily backups. But backups have nothing to do with your ability to UNDO. You can undo all the way back to the moment you last started FCP (with some exceptions). So if you haven't quit out of FCP in a week, then you can undo all the way to day one if you wanted.



[Bret Williams] "I think sometimes it has to do with the playhead/selection."

Yes, that's what it will be 9 out of 10 times. Zoomed into one section of the timeline using the skimmer, with the playhead somewhere else.

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Bret Williams
Re: Why can't I move 2 clips?
on Oct 7, 2018 at 4:08:16 pm

I just meant you only need to do undos covering the last 15 min cuz there a backup at that point.

I love FCPXs way of dealing with auto saving, but I’m not a fan of what they did to smaller document saving like for pages or numbers. The whole duplicate first then save has bitten me many times. It’s just not intuitive and unnecessary. My guess is it was an early step of Jobs toward making the Mac more like a great big iPhone/tablet, but after his death Apple didn’t quite follow the path he had planned. BTW if you want to do “save as” in those apps it’s hidden- just hold option while you click file>save as.

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Winston A. Cely
Re: Why can't I move 2 clips?
on Oct 5, 2018 at 3:52:02 pm

Just curious, but why do you have the two clips in their own secondary storylines? They are positioned in such as way as to appear as though there is no gar between them, and thus no reason for them to be in their own containers.

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Jeremy Garchow
Re: Why can't I move 2 clips?
on Oct 5, 2018 at 4:03:56 pm

[Winston A. Cely] "Just curious, but why do you have the two clips in their own secondary storylines? They are positioned in such as way as to appear as though there is no gar between them, and thus no reason for them to be in their own containers."

They have transitions, which means they get a secondary.

PS, Nice sleuthing, Bret!


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Winston A. Cely
Re: Why can't I move 2 clips?
on Oct 6, 2018 at 12:18:56 am

Cool. I noticed those transitions, which is why I asked about why you have each clip in its own secondary storyline. It was different than how I do it. Thanks!

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Xavier Paredes
Re: Why can't I move 2 clips?
on Oct 5, 2018 at 4:14:55 pm

These are medical videos for education and each video (21 total) has its own credits screen at the end. The last one is just a copyright screen. I know I can put both in a Compound clip but I try to avoid compound clips and use them only when really needed as they clutter my project.

Xavier


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Bret Williams
Re: Why can't I move 2 clips?
on Oct 5, 2018 at 4:31:21 pm

Looked perfectly normal to me. You're fading them up and down or some other transition.

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Eric Santiago
Re: Why can't I move 2 clips?
on Oct 5, 2018 at 5:24:23 pm

Good post/reply here. Interesting to read.
IMHO, FCPX has a ton of plusses that outweigh minuses.
Sure we can get into a debate (wrong site?) over this but in the end, it just does the job for me.
I am equally in the other NLEs and have been dipping into Resolve NLE of late.
Sadly I just don't think I can get my head wrapped around that one.
Once I'm in Resolve, it's grading time ;)


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Bret Williams
Re: Why can't I move 2 clips?
on Oct 5, 2018 at 5:35:34 pm

Do you really need resolve to grade? Yes it's amazing and has features probably needed by only feature films, but with Chromatic's groups and motion tracking and features, you could probably keep most of it in the app. I'm never locked to picture enough to send something out. And even then, it's a myriad of intertwined layers of graphics, crops, animations, color overlays, etc. that I'm not really sure how would transition to an xml. So many plugins and custom motion effects.

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Eric Santiago
Re: Why can't I move 2 clips?
on Oct 5, 2018 at 5:59:19 pm

[Bret Williams] "Do you really need resolve to grade?"

I would love to stay within one app but I live in a world of multiple NLEs due to the types of clients I work with.
Its soup to nuts when working with Indies, Docs, Music/Corp and full length features where I'm located.
Take what I can when I can.
So yea, I get different projects at different levels and eventually I need to hit a spot that I am comfortable with.
I make sure that clients don't use any special plugins or odd workflows.
I even go as far as no scaling and transitions.
Well, I wish that was true :P
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