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Les Wilson
Upgrading from twin HD displays. Anyone using curved ultra wide 21:9 monitor?
on Jul 4, 2018 at 12:19:17 pm

It's 2018. Not finding critical reviews of these for editing. I'm concerned that the distortion from the curve will make it hard to get graphics to line up or deal with the horizon? Ergonomic advantages aside, is anyone using a curved 21:9 display for editing?


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Jeff Kirkland
Re: Upgrading from twin HD displays. Anyone using curved ultra wide 21:9 monitor?
on Jul 4, 2018 at 7:03:02 pm

I have a friend who uses one and my personal experience is limited to an afternoon of helping him with an edit but, for me at least, it only took a few minutes to get used to the curve. Another friend tried it and hated it. He couldn’t even say exactly why - just something about the curved screen bothered him.

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Doug Suiter
Re: Upgrading from twin HD displays. Anyone using curved ultra wide 21:9 monitor?
on Jul 5, 2018 at 10:22:15 pm

I have a flat ultra wide and it’s fabulous to have such horizontal space along a timeline. Shortly after I bought it the curved version came out. It occurred to me that the curve would be nice in that in the extreme left and right on the screen is far from your eyes and the small icons and menu options may be easier to see on a curved screen. Just something you may want to consider if you haven’t already.

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Les Wilson
Re: Upgrading from twin HD displays. Anyone using curved ultra wide 21:9 monitor?
on Jul 6, 2018 at 12:02:25 am

Exactly. I find with my Cinema HD "twins", I've not treated them equal and favored the left one. The second one becomes something I see at a distance and "secondary" or lean/shush over to see. But the keyboard stays in front of the left one. I think that's the nature of twinsies due to the bezels in the middle.

I felt I'd be losing a lot of productivity space dropping down to a 34" ultrawide flat. But last year's crop of displays brought curved Ultra-wide 3880 x 1600 that are 38" and look like the next best thing to the twins. They all use panels from LG but Dell seems to have focussed on improving color accuracy and brightness while the others on gaming and speakers. This is what I'm seeing right now:

https://www.anandtech.com/show/11653/dells-ultrasharp-u3818dw-available-cur...


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Bret Williams
Re: Upgrading from twin HD displays. Anyone using curved ultra wide 21:9 monitor?
on Jul 6, 2018 at 3:45:04 pm

I like my LG



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Les Wilson
Re: Upgrading from twin HD displays. Anyone using curved ultra wide 21:9 monitor?
on Jul 6, 2018 at 4:27:44 pm

Whoa. What model is that? It looks flat and bigger than 38".


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Bret Williams
Re: Upgrading from twin HD displays. Anyone using curved ultra wide 21:9 monitor?
on Jul 6, 2018 at 5:30:20 pm

Looks pretty curved to me. It’s a 34” and yes it’s curved. The curve is easy to get used to. It’s so wide I figure anything helps. This model has TB2 pass through. So it goes to the screen, then the raid, then the BMD device.

Biggest downside vs two monitors is that the bin/browser can’t be full height when dealing with one screen. When I had two screens one was dedicated to the browser like in the pic where it’s on my laptop. i usually run with the laptop closed (or dedicated to YouTube TV).

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Jeremy Garchow
Re: Upgrading from twin HD displays. Anyone using curved ultra wide 21:9 monitor?
on Jul 6, 2018 at 5:45:45 pm

I have the same monitor as Brett with TB2.

After it I bought it, a 38” became available. My only regret is I didn’t get the 38”.

The curve does not bother me at all, the flat version bothered me because it was almost too wide at a close distance. I used to have two monitors that positioned in a slight ‘V’ shape. I like the single bigger monitor (with almost the same pixel count) much better.

I have no “alignment” issues with graphics/straight lines. It’s a really nice monitor and everyone that comes to the suite is immediately curious about it and they all say they like it. It’s a good piece of kit.


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Les Wilson
Re: Upgrading from twin HD displays. Anyone using curved ultra wide 21:9 monitor?
on Jul 6, 2018 at 8:05:50 pm

Good to know. Glad to hear about the experience, Thanks. My frustration with FCP is a major thing driving one large screen for me. It's wasteful of space when on the twin and everything else is cramped. Wish FCP allowed more control over it's windows. I ordered the Dell 38" ultrawide curve in spite of the idiotic downward facing ports. FOrtunately there's two USB on the edge.


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Bret Williams
Re: Upgrading from twin HD displays. Anyone using curved ultra wide 21:9 monitor?
on Jul 6, 2018 at 9:46:49 pm

My LG just looks big from the camera angle btw. Before I had the 27” iMac and a Dell 21.5” As my bin monitor. Both the dell and this LG have the idiotic downward ports as well. The LG has some nice sounding speakers in it. similar to an iMac.

38” would be nice as would retina. I’d keep to curved

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Eric Santiago
Re: Upgrading from twin HD displays. Anyone using curved ultra wide 21:9 monitor?
on Jul 9, 2018 at 7:26:32 pm

Brett what CPU are you using with that?
My Dual Cinema 30s are starting to look tired and will need something soon.
I am currently running a nMP D700.


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Bret Williams
Re: Upgrading from twin HD displays. Anyone using curved ultra wide 21:9 monitor?
on Jul 9, 2018 at 7:40:44 pm

The late 2016 MBPro 15”. Top Model with the 4gig GPU. Powerful enough laptop for the screens and processing, but I don’t care for the keyboard, the touch bar is kinda useless, and the TB3 ports are ridiculously loose. Especially on the right side. I don’t care for the sound of the trackpad either. I’m using a TB3 dock now (not in the pic) and TB3 to TB2 adapters and they constantly lose connection when the computer goes into sleep. Sometimes you have to reboot computer or any combination of drives and dock to get it all running normal again. Never had issues like that with my old 2012 iMac.

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Eric Santiago
Re: Upgrading from twin HD displays. Anyone using curved ultra wide 21:9 monitor?
on Jul 9, 2018 at 7:44:56 pm

Thanks Brett.
If anyone has any experience with the nMP with any of the two (Dell and LG) please chime in.
Im about to go into renovation mode at home and would love to squeeze a purchase in before my wife takes over my wallet :P
LOL!


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Jeremy Garchow
Re: Upgrading from twin HD displays. Anyone using curved ultra wide 21:9 monitor?
on Jul 9, 2018 at 8:26:31 pm

[Eric Santiago] "If anyone has any experience with the nMP with any of the two (Dell and LG) please chime in."

I run mine from a Tube.

Works great. I also use it as a hub for USB/whatevers sometimes.


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Les Wilson
Re: Upgrading from twin HD displays. Anyone using curved ultra wide 21:9 monitor?
on Jul 18, 2018 at 4:25:54 am

Just to follow up. I love the curved 38. Period. Love love love. Made FCP much more fun than on the twins. In fact I like the change it brings to everything.

I switched from a cheese grater to an 8-core nMP plus TB2 Raid from G-Tech. But the nMP kept freezing up. 10-20 times a day. Couldn't even run to do a time machine backup. But only the UI froze. System kept running.

I returned it today for refund but now I'm stuck with a TB2 Raid and Dock. Display is Display port and USB-C. But it kinda makes no sense to consider an iMac Pro now since I am committed with a $1K monitor. There's a Mac Mini or MBP or gamble on another nMP. Hmmmmm

Is it common for Mac Pro to be such a piece of junk or is it just the luck of the draw and I got a lemon?


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Les Wilson
Re: Upgrading from twin HD displays. Anyone using curved ultra wide 21:9 monitor?
on Jul 18, 2018 at 4:23:31 pm

EPILOG: I did much searching and found a plethora of posts complaining of freezes related to the graphics cards. Some correlate it to particular monitors and got stability by changing monitors. Worst are 4K. So forget the nMP. Going the route of top line MacBook Pro as desktop and color correction monitor. Unfortunately I already have TB2 dock and RAID. Will make it work. Using 13" air to drive the 38" curved monitor. Solid as a rock. Impressed. YMMV.


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Jeremy Garchow
Re: Upgrading from twin HD displays. Anyone using curved ultra wide 21:9 monitor?
on Jul 18, 2018 at 6:01:42 pm

Really glad you like the monitor. They are very nice!

[Les Wilson] "EPILOG: I did much searching and found a plethora of posts complaining of freezes related to the graphics cards. Some correlate it to particular monitors and got stability by changing monitors. Worst are 4K. So forget the nMP. "

I have a Tube and I don't experience freezes. Early on, there was one batch of D700 graphics cards that were bad, and Apple replaced them.

https://www.macrumors.com/2016/02/06/late-2013-mac-pro-video-issues-repair-...


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Les Wilson
Re: Upgrading from twin HD displays. Anyone using curved ultra wide 21:9 monitor?
on Jul 18, 2018 at 6:35:00 pm

Yes, I was shocked to get a refurb unit from Apple exhibiting the D500/D700 card symptoms that were fixed in that recall. Apple Store said date of manufacture was April 2018 so old. When I noticed the recent MBP speed bump model could be configured to 32MB and had i9 processor and would make a nice color correction monitor, it made sense as a desktop CPU. Don't have to use the most horrible keyboard in the history of the world and garbage track pad. Close the lid and dock the sucker. Now all my components are new and from the same era or in the case of the TB2 dock and RAID, same era minus 1. LOL

Thanks for all the help.


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Les Wilson
Re: Upgrading from twin HD displays. Anyone using curved ultra wide 21:9 monitor?
on Jul 21, 2018 at 12:32:16 am

UPDATE: According to Dell, the U3818DW is not compatible with what they refer to as "Non-standard hardware and proprietary software". They made it clear they only test on Windows. I'm on my own with any problems.

So with a new MPB 15, first thing I notice is that the USB-C connection on the Dell supplies enough power to charge the laptop. Next thing I notice is that the Dell keeps waking the system from Shutdown and during sleep, it wakes itself up every 60 seconds to complain there's no signal. Unfortunately it wakes up the TB2 RAID which sleeps just before the 60 second monitor wake call so it goes on and off all the time while sleeping and after shutdown.

Apple is looking into it but it appears that the Dell U3818DW is not compatible with the Mac. For all I know it could have been the problem with the Mac Pro. I have now idea about the variants from HP, LG, Viewsonic and ASUS that use the same panel. Buyer beware.

Good news is that a USB HUB lets me charge the MBP and drive the monitor via DP.


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