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Neil Sadwelkar
FCP X 10.4.7 is out
on Oct 7, 2019 at 5:56:47 pm

FCP X 10.4.7 is out

https://support.apple.com/en-in/HT201237

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James Culbertson
Re: FCP X 10.4.7 is out
on Oct 7, 2019 at 10:38:19 pm

And if you are on Mojave there is an FCPX 10.4.7 glitch and fix to keep in mind:

https://fcpxpert.net/2019/10/07/fcp-x-update-and-mojave-menu-glitch/


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Oliver Peters
Re: FCP X 10.4.7 is out
on Oct 8, 2019 at 1:20:37 pm
Last Edited By Oliver Peters on Oct 8, 2019 at 1:21:56 pm

And regarding Catalina. If you run anything other than fully updated current Apple apps, hold off. Avid and Adobe products are currently not yet compatible with Catalina.

http://avid.force.com/pkb/articles/en_US/Compatibility/macOS-Catalina-suppo...

https://helpx.adobe.com/x-productkb/global/fix-macos-64-bit-compatibility-e...

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Warren Eig
Re: FCP X 10.4.7 is out
on Oct 8, 2019 at 4:07:57 pm

And will this be the last update for these grater Mac Pros that can run OS 10.14.6? Will FCPX 10.4.8 be Catalina only? I don't want to spend $5000+ for a new Mac.

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Steve Connor
Re: FCP X 10.4.7 is out
on Oct 8, 2019 at 4:13:46 pm

[Warren Eig] "And will this be the last update for these grater Mac Pros that can run OS 10.14.6? Will FCPX 10.4.8 be Catalina only?"

I imagine it might and so it should be!


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Neil Goodman
Re: FCP X 10.4.7 is out
on Oct 8, 2019 at 5:30:10 pm

any new features besides the underlying architecture?


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Bill Davis
Re: FCP X 10.4.7 is out
on Oct 8, 2019 at 6:05:57 pm

A few.
Sidecar is probably the billboard feature. The ability to use an iPad as an external Monitor with bi-directional communication - so you can annotate video on your machine wirelessly from your lap.

I'm interested in how the latest Retina Screens suss out (as to colorimetry and brightness) for potential use as a super lightweight field/client monitor.

There are a dozen other minor tweaks, but most of us suspect bigger news when the new MacPros ship. With the 64-bit standard and Metal settling in - it will be interesting to see how those architectural changes effect what the software can do in both productivity and features.

I suspect some long time "asks" on the feature side, were pushed to the back burner because the FCP X team didn't feel they could implement one thing - without slowing down overall performance unacceptably. Now maybe those things come off the back burner and can see the light on machines fast enough to make the experience flow.

Time will tell.

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Bill Davis
Re: FCP X 10.4.7 is out
on Oct 8, 2019 at 6:00:20 pm

[Warren Eig] "And will this be the last update for these grater Mac Pros that can run OS 10.14.6? Will FCPX 10.4.8 be Catalina only? I don't want to spend $5000+ for a new Mac."

I just don't understand that.

That old cheese grater is a DECADE old. You should have depreciated it to ZERO long ago. Don't you EVER want to see what the new AI and Performance enhancing tech rolled out over the past decade, can do?

I was on a Facebook Live chat about 10.4.7 an hour ago and a caller said he found out that the Metal Rewrite is so much more efficient that he can effectively edit on a MacBook AIR now!

I've got to believe that the same software that makes THAT possible on marginal OLD systems - should seriously turbocharge a decent modern pro workflow.

"If it ain't broke don't try to fix it" - is how you end up facing a sharp cliff like this current 32-bit one unprepared. Moving along to keep reasonably up with generational change is how you avoid it - at least it seems like that to me.

But whatever.

I think Apple pushed 10.4.7 today to let the gnashing of teeth happen a bit before the Fully Metal Compliant (Afterburner aware) ProApps start rolling out soon.

Looking forward to that. And excited to see how close the 2016 rumored 16" MacBook Pro might be in performance to the present iMac Pros.

Great time to be an editor!

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Neil Goodman
Re: FCP X 10.4.7 is out
on Oct 8, 2019 at 9:41:29 pm

[Bill Davis] "I just don't understand that.

That old cheese grater is a DECADE old. You should have depreciated it to ZERO long ago."


Believe it or not - alot of people still use these.

Im on one as I type. Not mine personally but the company I work for. Its still a beast for editorial.

Its got 128 gigs of ram and a 16gig titan x gfx card. Internal SSD raid. It flies. Unfortunately its stuck on high Sierra for good now but up until that this is still chugging along making the company plenty of money while having been paid off for 8 years.


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Douglas K. Dempsey
Re: FCP X 10.4.7 is out
on Oct 12, 2019 at 8:45:51 pm

I run Snow Leopard, the most stable OS X of its era, in order to run the last iteration of FCP Studio 7.0.3 (or 4, I forget) ... on a MBP 17" ... and also on one of the first gen silver iMac. Those two machines exist only to run legacy stuff. And that means dogging down a video card for the iMac when it fails, etc.

But for the new stuff, I agree with Bill Davis, you get the new gear, the stable latest apps and exploit the things you can do ... like that Sidecar workflow Bill describes.

Doug D


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Oliver Peters
Re: FCP X 10.4.7 is out
on Oct 12, 2019 at 11:31:30 pm
Last Edited By Oliver Peters on Oct 12, 2019 at 11:44:50 pm

[Douglas K. Dempsey] "But for the new stuff, I agree with Bill Davis, you get the new gear, the stable latest apps and exploit the things you can do ... like that Sidecar workflow Bill describes."

Except, probably hold off on Catalina for a while until Apple gets the issues straightened out. There now are some users reporting loss of Mail data. Catalina is already in the 10.15.1 beta phase, which seems pretty early for that.

https://mjtsai.com/blog/2019/10/11/mail-data-loss-in-macos-10-15/

https://support.google.com/mail/thread/16312735?hl=en

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Douglas K. Dempsey
Re: FCP X 10.4.7 is out
on Oct 12, 2019 at 11:47:01 pm

Haha, good advice Oliver. I find that Mail is a funky app continuously through all iterations of OS X!

Doug D


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Warren Eig
Re: FCP X 10.4.7 is out
on Oct 9, 2019 at 5:54:27 pm

What don't you understand. I have a 2012 Mac Pro 12 core 3.46GHz Xeon processors with a ton of ram and a Sapphire RX580 card. It will not run Catalina. BUT my 13 2012 MacBook Pro with intel integrated graphics will.

Do the math, it a forced upgrade of a perfectly powerful and capable Mac Pro. It's an arbitrary decision Apple made to up their bottom line as there is nothing about the Mac Pro I own that isn't capable of running Catalina.

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Oliver Peters
Re: FCP X 10.4.7 is out
on Oct 9, 2019 at 6:24:03 pm

[Warren Eig] "there is nothing about the Mac Pro I own that isn't capable of running Catalina"

Not to take away from the validity of continuing to use your tower, but I'm not sure the above comment is completely true.

I have a mid-2009 Mac Pro with a Sapphire card that I was able to bump up to High Sierra. At that same point I also bumped up my mid-2014 MacBook Pro. Theoretically both should have been able to run the same versions of everything at that point. However, when I went to upgrade Pixelmator Pro, the MBP was fine, but the older tower wasn't because of Metal compatibility issues.

Catalina drops support for a number of core technologies. One of these is Firewire i/o support. All of these things affect what will or won't work. The bottom line for you is to go to Mojave and stop there. Currently there doesn't seem to be any app that requires Catalina, yet, nor is improved with Catalina. But it's still early.

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Claude Lyneis
Re: FCP X 10.4.7 is out
on Oct 8, 2019 at 7:25:17 pm

Should I stay or should I go??

I'm about to start a new FCPX project that will take about 1 month. I want to stay with Mojave for that time because I have some apps that will need to be replaced, when I go to Catalina. Should I stick with my existing FCPX version or go for the update before doing the new project??


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James Culbertson
Re: FCP X 10.4.7 is out
on Oct 8, 2019 at 8:03:08 pm

10.4.7 works on Mojave.


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Oliver Peters
Re: FCP X 10.4.7 is out
on Oct 8, 2019 at 8:24:38 pm

[James Culbertson] "10.4.7 works on Mojave."

FYI - Apple also released a macOS 10.14.6 supplemental update yesterday, which includes the add'l pro codecs pack. So you should update both if you are going to update FCPX.

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Eric Santiago
Re: FCP X 10.4.7 is out
on Oct 9, 2019 at 3:00:29 pm

[Claude Lyneis] "Should I stick with my existing FCPX version or go for the update before doing the new project??"

I tend to hang on longer when I'm busy with a project.
Last year, I had to hang on to 10.4.3 due to one client for half a year.
She did not want to upgrade so I stayed with that version.
Helps when other clients were Premiere/Avid based.


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Mark Suszko
Re: FCP X 10.4.7 is out
on Oct 9, 2019 at 3:55:48 pm

Can I do this FCPX upgrade -without- upgrading to Catalina?


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James Culbertson
Re: FCP X 10.4.7 is out
on Oct 9, 2019 at 4:23:07 pm

[Mark Suszko] "Can I do this FCPX upgrade -without- upgrading to Catalina?"

10.4.7 works with Mojave too.


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Ken Bennett
Re: FCP X 10.4.7 is out
on Oct 9, 2019 at 8:43:38 pm

Iʻm running macOS High Sierra on my late 2013 iMac 27" and FCPX 10.4.6. I also run M$ Word, Excel, PowerPoint and Adobe Suite 6.6. What am I looking at for upgrading to Mojave 10.14.6 and FCPX 10.4.7?

Thanks. Make it painless.

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Joe Marler
Re: FCP X 10.4.7 is out
on Oct 9, 2019 at 11:54:53 pm

I did some simple FCPX 10.4.7 performance tests on my 10-core Vega64 iMac Pro, running Mojave 10.14.6.

The BruceX benchmark is about 2x faster than on 10.4.6. In fact it's so fast I have to append about 5 BruceX timelines and divide the elapsed time by 5 to get an approximate number, which is 5.2 seconds.

Exporting a rendered 4k ProRes 422 timeline to 1080p H264 is about 40% faster.

No difference seen in Neat Video 5.1.2. That's expected since it's on the same macOS and the code path is largely within the plugin not within FCPX.

However in general it appears GPU code paths on built-in effects are a lot faster, also some encode/decode paths.


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Oliver Peters
Re: FCP X 10.4.7 is out
on Oct 10, 2019 at 12:23:47 am

[Joe Marler] "The BruceX benchmark is about 2x faster than on 10.4.6."

Good to hear. Makes sense. This update is all about optimization for cores and GPUs. The more cores, the more grunt your GPUs offer, the faster it is.

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Eric Santiago
Re: FCP X 10.4.7 is out
on Oct 10, 2019 at 6:43:53 pm

[Ken Bennett] "What am I looking at for upgrading to Mojave 10.14.6 "

On this topic, how do you upgrade to Mojave now?
With Catalina in the wild, I can't seem to find an option for Mojave anywhere.
I also noticed that all my Macs with Mojave installed are missing the "Install Mojave" app in the Application folder.


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Ken Bennett
Re: FCP X 10.4.7 is out
on Oct 10, 2019 at 6:50:28 pm

Why Mojave now? Because the latest FCPX version will not work on High Sierra and Catalina has not yet proven itself. There may be issues with moving from High Sierra to Mojave just like there maybe be going to Catalina.

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Eric Santiago
Re: FCP X 10.4.7 is out
on Oct 10, 2019 at 7:07:17 pm

[Ken Bennett] "Why Mojave now? Because the latest FCPX version will not work on High Sierra and Catalina has not yet proven itself."

I just wanted to be par with one of the editors here.
He updated to Mojave a few months ago and I generally like to keep the same OS when sharing projects.
We have over a dozen nMPs here and only one was moved Mojave by accident.
Not just FCPX here, Avid and Premiere too.
And I def would never jump onto Catalina till the smoke clears.
Thus why I wanted to try Mojave, I am hearing less noise of late on that one.


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Oliver Peters
Re: FCP X 10.4.7 is out
on Oct 10, 2019 at 7:30:28 pm
Last Edited By Oliver Peters on Oct 10, 2019 at 7:32:20 pm

[Eric Santiago] "Thus why I wanted to try Mojave, I am hearing less noise of late on that one."

Mojave is fine. All my machines are on it. Same mix of apps. The one caveat for me is that I don't like its dark mode. It's not like dark mode in HS, because all backgrounds (like in Text Edit) are dark with white text, not just the menu bar. There is a Terminal command (hack) that gives you a similar appearance to dark mode in HS. Otherwise, it nags a bit more than HS with various permissions requests, including frequent requests to allow (or not) an app to access your internal microphone.

Of course, it's the last macOS version that still permits 32-bit apps.

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Eric Santiago
Re: FCP X 10.4.7 is out
on Oct 11, 2019 at 1:27:35 pm

[Oliver Peters] "The one caveat for me is that I don't like its dark mode. It's not like dark mode"

With my far sight issues I dont mind the dark mode.
Now to find a way to upgrade a few High Sierra units to Mojave....


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Oliver Peters
Re: FCP X 10.4.7 is out
on Oct 11, 2019 at 1:41:29 pm

[Eric Santiago] "Now to find a way to upgrade a few High Sierra units to Mojave...."

The link in this support page opens the Mojave download in the App Store app.

https://support.apple.com/macos/mojave

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Oliver Peters
Re: FCP X 10.4.7 is out
on Oct 13, 2019 at 12:23:12 pm
Last Edited By Oliver Peters on Oct 13, 2019 at 12:34:05 pm

More on Catalina.

https://www.pro-tools-expert.com/logic-pro-expert/2019/10/7/macos-catalina-...

So in spite of the 32-bit issue, there are more complex compatibility issues that couldn't truly have been known until the final version of the OS was actually released.

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