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Ronald Lindeboom
Article: Microsoft Surface Studio: Does It Out-Mac the Mac?
on Oct 31, 2016 at 10:42:30 pm


Microsoft Surface Studio: Does It Out-Mac the Mac?

The day before Apple was set to announce their big news for the year, Microsoft introduced their own big news and for some Mac users -- no, not all but at least some -- it seemed to recall feelings and dreams of old. This is a Microsoft that few saw coming and in their swing for the fences, they have gotten many things right. Will it be enough to plant their flag on the mountain that Apple has long been king of? We'll see.

Review, Editorial, Feature   2016/10/31
Author: Ronald Lindeboom



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Jiggy Gaton
Re: Microsoft Surface Studio: Does It Out-Mac the Mac?
on Nov 2, 2016 at 3:49:01 am

Utterly amazing product and a great review as well Ron. I am blown away by the new MS, and in comparison to the babbling of Jony Ive going on about watch bands, the presenter in this video was speaking my language. For sure this will be my next "iMac." Apple is dead to me, with it's reduction in ports, chimes, and the shear lack of inability to bring touch or pen into my professional world. While Apple seems to be more about reductive design these days, MS is all about intuitive design, or so it seems on screen. Can't wait to play!

Ps. Love the site makeover, very sharp.

Phoenix Studios Nepal: A small A/V Production House in Kathmandu.


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Ronald Lindeboom
@Jiggy Gaton
on Nov 2, 2016 at 4:07:02 am

Thank you for the kind words, Jiggy. They are gratefully appreciated.

I agree with you about this new machine, which as I said about being someone who loves to draw and paint -- as well as being a user of the Adobe Creative Cloud suite, etc. -- it really speaks my language, too.

I have loved my Macs since buying my first one way back in early 1985, but this new machine from Microsoft is truly hard to ignore. I was joking with Tim Wilson that I know my copy of Windows Painter is here somewhere, now I just have to find it. ;)

Best regards,

Ronald Lindeboom
CEO, Creative COW LLC
A 2011 FOLIO: 40 honoree as one of the 40 most influential publishers in America for 2011

Creativity is a process wherein the student and the teacher are located in the same individual.


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Jiggy Gaton
@Ronald Lindeboom
on Nov 2, 2016 at 10:38:59 am

Do you mean the Painter program that came in a paint can? I had that as well, but I thought it was an Adobe product? It had like 15 3.5" diskettes in a real tin paint can, along with a user's guide stuffed in. I thought that was so cool back then...

Phoenix Studios Nepal: A small A/V Production House in Kathmandu.


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Ronald Lindeboom
@Jiggy Gaton
on Nov 2, 2016 at 11:31:20 am

Yes, I was referring to Painter, the one that came in a paint can. It was meant more as a joke that anything else, Jiggy. But when I first saw Surface Studio and the wheel, I did have the thought that Painter would have been a remarkable tool for this machine, especially with automated brushes that could play in 3D as seen in that 3rd video in this article. But Painter is long dead, and if I remember its fate, it fell into the hands of Corel and died of neglect there. (I could be wrong but that is how I remember it.)

Best regards,

Ronald Lindeboom
CEO, Creative COW LLC
A 2011 FOLIO: 40 honoree as one of the 40 most influential publishers in America for 2011

Creativity is a process wherein the student and the teacher are located in the same individual.


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Jiggy Gaton
@Ronald Lindeboom
on Nov 2, 2016 at 4:51:10 pm

Yes, that's it. Mind-blowing in the day. I once used the very late version of Corel Painter (V12), but not so much now during my sunshine years of retirement. But I hope that magic wheel winds up working with Creative Suite and others like C4D. That would rock, somehow. I'm already starting to save some pennies for the $4k version of Studio. I'll probably have enough in the bank by the time they work the kinks out in version two. Sooner if my upcoming book (see my Mayday stuff on MPUG.org) pays off.

Phoenix Studios Nepal: A small A/V Production House in Kathmandu.


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Scott Tuchman
Re: Microsoft Surface Studio: Does It Out-Mac the Mac?
on Nov 2, 2016 at 6:15:15 pm

Great article Ron but I fail to understand with the effort to redo the site why Cow still wants to ignore all of us that consume most of this type of content on mobile; and this website is still not optimized for mobile viewing. ??????

tvnoyz


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Ronald Lindeboom
@Scott Tuchman
on Nov 2, 2016 at 6:57:13 pm

I am not ignoring anyone. I hired a guy a few years back who cost us almost $100,000 and who took the money, but did little for the COW. In the end, the redesign work I hired him for was not done but our coffers were drained. (I can sometimes be too nice and supportive for my own good.)

In the wake of that, I almost had a nervous breakdown among other very serious health issues and so I had to bow out and heal up. Thankfully, I did.

Now, I am focusing on cleaning up the site for the 85% of people who come in on the web interface. In 2017, I plan to do the coding changes to enable the site to perform correctly for the 15% of our members who come in on mobile devices with smaller screens. (I hope you don't mind me removing your image, I did so because my response was so far removed from your question that I am sure many readers would have been confused. Your point is well taken and I am very aware of the issue.)

Tim Wilson, Abraham Chaffin and I have all been meeting to discuss what needs to be done -- and thanks to Adobe Muse which is a godsend for things like this, it will be done beginning in the first quarter of 2017. I wish I had better news for you but I have so many things that I have been cleaning up and fixing that my plate is very full and I have to learn Adobe Muse on top of it all. I appreciate your understanding.

Thank you for your feedback. We are indeed listening.

Best regards,

Ronald Lindeboom
CEO, Creative COW LLC
A 2011 FOLIO: 40 honoree as one of the 40 most influential publishers in America for 2011

Creativity is a process wherein the student and the teacher are located in the same individual.


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Ronald Lindeboom
@Scott Tuchman
on Nov 2, 2016 at 7:23:29 pm

BTW, if you would like to help us test some of the work we'll be doing, Scott, please get hold of me after the first of the year and we'll see that you are made a part of the beta and get to experience all the wonders and glories of all the bugs that will appear to be squashed.

Thanks again for your feedback.

Best regards,

Ronald Lindeboom
CEO, Creative COW LLC
A 2011 FOLIO: 40 honoree as one of the 40 most influential publishers in America for 2011

Creativity is a process wherein the student and the teacher are located in the same individual.


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Mark Suszko
Re: Microsoft Surface Studio: Does It Out-Mac the Mac?
on Nov 2, 2016 at 6:27:59 pm

So nice to hear from you again, Ron! If you pull the trigger on a purchase, consider trying this screen out with Synthetik Studio Artist.

Me. I'd like to try it with Lightwave and Toon Boom. The low screen position mimics an animator's table.

"Oh, you wanted to RECORD that?"


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Ronald Lindeboom
@Mark Suszko
on Nov 2, 2016 at 6:46:32 pm

Nice to hear from you, Mark. I have followed your adventures from time to time, so I haven't been completely gone, just silent. ?

I have wondered if Synthetik is even around anymore. Studio Artist was a great tool.

I hope life has been treating you kindly, sir.

Best regards,

Ronald Lindeboom
CEO, Creative COW LLC
A 2011 FOLIO: 40 honoree as one of the 40 most influential publishers in America for 2011

Creativity is a process wherein the student and the teacher are located in the same individual.


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Jon Draper
Re: Microsoft Surface Studio: Does It Out-Mac the Mac?
on Nov 4, 2016 at 6:25:26 pm

Absolutely true... I've been a long time Mac user and this week I've decided to leap back to Windows (something I never thought I'd be saying).

3 months ago I bought the first Windows PC for our studio. The 1st in 10 years, we've been tinkering with VR and the HTC Vive (PC only) plus we 'needed' the power available from the latest series of Nvidia cards and their Cuda cores. (Running some complex Element 3D scenes within After Effects)... The scene stuttered to preview a frame in 10 seconds on a top end 5k iMac... where as on the £1500 PC with the Nvidia 1080 it ran super smoothly with zero render time... (*with a 2nd hand HD monitor)

However.. I still loved the iMac on my desk though and kept coming back to do everything else...

Then I saw the Surface Studio promo and thought... 'What are my reasons for using the iMac'..... Apart from being at one with the OS, knowing they're solidly build and having access to ProRes encoding... that was it... all the software is cross platform.

Windows 10 is actually pretty nice to use.

So this past week I've moved email, plugins, everything over to the PC... and today took receipt of a 32" 4k screen from Philips. (£660).

The iMac will soon be up for sale...

Then hopefully once they put a 10 series Nvidia card in the Surface Studio I can one day make the leap to one of those... (or the rumoured similar style devices coming from other PC manufacturers). I still draw sketches and storyboard everyday so there's some real arguments for getting one... (I think, that's a good enough excuse anyway :-)

Jon Draper
Professional 2D & 3D Animator, Corporate Video Designer and Creative ideas man.

http://www.stormystudio.com


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Jiggy Gaton
@Jon Draper
on Nov 4, 2016 at 7:33:32 pm

Good to know. I think I'll also be selling my iMac as well. I wonder if the used market will soon be flooded with them...

Phoenix Consulting and Training Worldwide, helping you help the world @ http://www.pcatww.com/training


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Ronald Lindeboom
@Jon Draper
on Nov 5, 2016 at 8:34:31 am

Well stated comments, Jon. I was a guy who loved to draw and paint but when I got onto computers, I put it on hold because my brain never took to the "split visual" of keeping an eye on the screen and an eye on the Wacom pad and pen. I never got used to it and so I did many other things but the Surface Studio looks like a solution I could really enjoy. I would love to be able to sketch, draw, and paint on the screen -- especially the 3D drawing that you see in that third video down on this page.

Thanks for the feedback, Jon.

Best regards,

Ronald Lindeboom
CEO, Creative COW LLC

Creativity is a process wherein the student and the teacher are located in the same individual.


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Craig Meeks
Re: Microsoft Surface Studio: Does It Out-Mac the Mac?
on Nov 8, 2016 at 10:19:44 pm

It looks promising. I pre-ordered the new Surface line and accessories for my business, very excited to get to work on it!

Craig Meeks
http://www.bluefortressmedia.com


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Craig Meeks
@Craig Meek
on Nov 8, 2016 at 10:22:01 pm

Oh, and Microsoft is paying you for your old Mac's.

Craig Meeks
http://www.bluefortressmedia.com


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Tim Wilson
@Craig Meek
on Nov 9, 2016 at 11:29:43 am

Alas, the $650 trade-in discount only applies to the Surface and Surface Pro, ie, the ones in the laptop form factor, NOT the Surface Studio shown here.

No need for Microsoft to do so, either. The December allotment has already sold out, so if you haven't ordered yet, you're looking at early 2017.


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John Trauscht
Re: Microsoft Surface Studio: Does It Out-Mac the Mac?
on Nov 9, 2016 at 12:12:06 am

I've been a Mac advocate for 25 years and have considered Microsoft negatively for nearly as long. The Surface Studio announcement blew my socks off. Apple needs to either respond with a competitive product or write us pro-level users off for good.

All of my critical apps have sufficient counterparts on Windows, now. Color management is not as much of an issue any more, either. To switch, I no longer need to repurchase any apps since I'm mostly on subscription models. The ones that are traditional purchases have tech support that allows me to download Windows versions.

The only significant thing still keeping me from switching is my extensive pre-OpenType PostScript Type 1 font library. This means that there is only one software innovation left before I have no reason to remain blindly loyal to Apple.

Come on, Apple. Dance with who brung ya.

John T
Graphic Designer and After Effects guy
Sometimes Musician


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Craig Meeks
Re: Microsoft Surface Studio: Does It Out-Mac the Mac?
on Nov 10, 2016 at 2:07:23 am

FYI Microsoft is shipping now. I got shipping confirmation today for the pre orders.

Craig Meeks
http://www.bluefortressmedia.com


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