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Wesley KelemenOverlapping and Erasing Footage
by on Aug 27, 2016 at 2:04:36 pm

A very frustrating problem I've come across in PP is I'm bringing in footage or moving stuff around and because you maybe not always see the timeline you might accidentally overlap clips. And what does PP do it erases the clip underneath. On this project alone it's happen 3 times and once I noticed it right before export.

But the real problem is now I have to go replace the clip. Is there anyway to make PP more like FCPX I guess where there none of this overlap & erase?

Im not mad at PP I'm disappointed


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Oliver PetersRe: Overlapping and Erasing Footage
by on Aug 27, 2016 at 2:29:59 pm

Premiere Pro does not have a magnetic timeline like FCPX. When you move clips around on the timeline you are in an overwrite mode by default. Pretty much every NLE works this way, except FCPX. An alternative solution would be to copy the clip and use the past insert command. Then your clips will be inserted where you want and push the other clips down on the timeline without overwriting.

- Oliver

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Robert d'AlexisRe: Overlapping and Erasing Footage
by on Aug 27, 2016 at 5:37:26 pm

[Wesley Kelemen] " Is there anyway to make PP more like FCPX I guess where there none of this overlap & erase?"

Just hold the modifier key (Ctrl) on PC when moving clips around.


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Duke SwedenRe: Overlapping and Erasing Footage
by on Aug 27, 2016 at 8:13:23 pm

Actually PPro does have a magnetic timeline that you can turn on and off (hint, it's the button that looks like a magnet). Another alternative is to just undo the clip placement and do it again.


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Oliver PetersRe: Overlapping and Erasing Footage
by on Aug 27, 2016 at 8:30:54 pm

[Duke Sweden] "Actually PPro does have a magnetic timeline that you can turn on and off"

That's simply snapping. It doesn't work the same way as FCPX's magnetic timeline.

- Oliver

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Yair BartalRe: Overlapping and Erasing Footage
by on Aug 28, 2016 at 5:39:42 am

Is there any video editing software for windows that does have a magnetic timeline?


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Alex UdellRe: Overlapping and Erasing Footage
by on Aug 28, 2016 at 3:36:58 pm

Sony Vegas has nondestructive overlapping.

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Yair BartalRe: Overlapping and Erasing Footage
by on Aug 28, 2016 at 4:06:01 pm

Thanks Alex.
I'm not sure how this nondestructive overlapping works, but does it behave like the magic timeline in FCPX?


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Alex UdellRe: Overlapping and Erasing Footage
by on Aug 28, 2016 at 4:17:12 pm

If you push two clips together it will create a transition automatically. If remove a clip the extent of the other clip is maintained, as opposed to Ppro's behavior of leaving a gap.

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Yair BartalRe: Overlapping and Erasing Footage
by on Aug 28, 2016 at 4:20:54 pm

OK thanks.
That seems to be quite far from how the FCPX's magnetic timeline works.


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Alex UdellRe: Overlapping and Erasing Footage
by on Aug 28, 2016 at 4:49:51 pm
Last Edited By Alex Udell on Aug 28, 2016 at 4:51:15 pm

Well Magnetic overall specifically is a unique feature of FCPX.

But gaps left by lifting clips was one thing specifically in the thread topic....

And this is similar to that behavior in FCPX...

probably as close as you're gonna get.


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Oliver PetersRe: Overlapping and Erasing Footage
by on Aug 28, 2016 at 6:20:30 pm

Ultimately FCPX's paradigm is unique to FCPX. There are plenty of similar individual features in other NLEs, but just not the whole package.

For example, if you want to swap shot order from 1,2,3 to 2,1,3 in Media Composer, simply use the Smart Tool - Insert function. However, to do that same swap, plus do it with additional clips from V2 and above, takes several additional commands. Nothing as easy as FCPX's connected clips. Think of it this way - most NLEs operate the way FCPX does in the Position Mode.

As Alex said, use the tool you are most comfortable with. But if you expect other NLEs to adopt FCPX's style, don't hold your breath. The majority of existing editors that make a living at this, aren't particularly interested in seeing Premiere Pro or Media Composer become just like FCPX. It's still very much a "love it or hate it" kind of thing.

- Oliver

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