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Robert KruegerProblems with sidecar files written on camera media
by on Aug 5, 2016 at 1:59:19 pm

I know some people are quite religious when it comes to software writing on camera media such as SD cards. Since, among others, Premiere writes XMP files when editing metadata, I wanted to ask if anyone has ever encountered a situation when this really created a problem like the card no longer being accepted by a camera or something like that.

I know that it's best practice not to edit directly with material from SD cards. Just wanted to get some statistics if anyone ever really had a problem with that.

Thanks


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Dave LaRondeRe: Problems with sidecar files written on camera media
by on Aug 5, 2016 at 4:16:43 pm

Ever have to shoot on tape? That SD card you shoot on is just like one of those old tapes. It's your original. It represents hours of work, possibly the work of many highly-paid people. You wouldn't dare alter those original tapes for fear of hurting the originals.

Since SD cards are so stinkin' cheap, I'd NEVER alter it if I needed to keep the video files on it. To me, it's like taking a box of Crayolas to the original Declaration Of Independence.

Dave LaRonde
Promotion Producer
KGAN (CBS) & KFXA (Fox) Cedar Rapids, IA


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Robert KruegerRe: Problems with sidecar files written on camera media
by on Aug 5, 2016 at 4:31:29 pm

I know and respect that position. My question was rather technical in nature.


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Jon DoughtieRe: Problems with sidecar files written on camera media
by on Aug 5, 2016 at 6:16:01 pm

I don't edit from media cards for all the reasons above as well.

With that said, since some camera recording systems are highly picky about that sort of thing, why chance it? Besides, It is a good practice to check the media card content first, and if ready to re-use, format it. No more issue.

System:
Dell Precision T7600 (x2)
Win 7 64-bit
32GB RAM
Adobe CC 2015.02 (as of 6/2016)
256GB SSD system drive
4 internal media drives RAID 5
Typically cutting short form from HD MP4 and P2 MXF.


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Robert KruegerRe: Problems with sidecar files written on camera media
by on Aug 5, 2016 at 7:49:46 pm

I am not questioning the advice. The question was more asking for "yes I have had a case where camera X did not work with the card anymore because there was an additional file on it". This sort of thing.


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Jon DoughtieRe: Problems with sidecar files written on camera media
by on Aug 5, 2016 at 8:10:54 pm

I have not had that occur, no.

System:
Dell Precision T7600 (x2)
Win 7 64-bit
32GB RAM
Adobe CC 2015.02 (as of 6/2016)
256GB SSD system drive
4 internal media drives RAID 5
Typically cutting short form from HD MP4 and P2 MXF.


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Blaise DourosRe: Problems with sidecar files written on camera media
by on Aug 5, 2016 at 9:10:47 pm

I've had this happen on my Sony FS7; if any changes are made to the card, including deleting clips via the computer instead of formatting them in-camera, the camera tells me that it needs to "restore media." I then need to reformat in-camera unless I want a bunch of weird empty clip files showing up in the camera's playback browser.

+1 for all who are saying copy, backup, then wipe.


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