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Abu TamyrRendering tume on Adobe Premiere
by on Aug 4, 2016 at 12:20:03 pm

Hi...new memeber on this forum. :)

Is it normal to have a 1GB video take 10+hrs to export/render? Here's the details:

Computer: Alienware 17
H.264/Youtube 1080P
Maximum render quality 2 Pass
Original files located on Computer in MyVideos folder.
I am Exporting into my computer as well.

My video is a youtube math tutorial featuring 2 cameras filming simultaneously. Im new to adobe, but it seems unusual that it should take 10+hrs to produce each video. Perhaps I am doing something wrong. I dont want to sacrifice video/audio quality either. Please advise.

Thank you


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Dave LaRondeRe: Rendering tume on Adobe Premiere
by on Aug 4, 2016 at 3:31:13 pm

1GB tells us nothing about the duration of this project. How many minutes long is it?

Dave LaRonde
Promotion Producer
KGAN (CBS) & KFXA (Fox) Cedar Rapids, IA


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Abu TamyrRe: Rendering tume on Adobe Premiere
by on Aug 4, 2016 at 3:36:59 pm

Hi Dave,

On average, the videos are 14 minutes in duration. I produce a split screen video using 2 video cameras shot in 1080P and superimpose WAV audio files that I record on a separate condenser microphone to provide better audio quality.


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Tero AhlforsRe: Rendering tume on Adobe Premiere
by on Aug 4, 2016 at 5:03:19 pm

What are your EXACT export settings? Take a screenshot.


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Abu TamyrRe: Rendering tume on Adobe Premiere
by on Aug 4, 2016 at 5:46:37 pm



Here is a screenshot. Sorry that it's sideways.


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Tero AhlforsRe: Rendering tume on Adobe Premiere
by on Aug 4, 2016 at 7:29:56 pm

Turn off the Use Maximum Render Quality checkbox.


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Abu TamyrRe: Rendering tume on Adobe Premiere
by on Aug 4, 2016 at 8:11:58 pm

I will give that a try. Based on your experience, is the loss in quality negligible? How about the quality differwnce between 1 pass and 2 pass?


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Dave LaRondeRe: Rendering tume on Adobe Premiere
by on Aug 4, 2016 at 8:16:28 pm

2-Pass helps improve quality a bit. It doesn't work miracles.

Dave LaRonde
Promotion Producer
KGAN (CBS) & KFXA (Fox) Cedar Rapids, IA


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Tero AhlforsRe: Rendering tume on Adobe Premiere
by on Aug 5, 2016 at 7:39:54 am

Also your source frame rate is really weird so Premiere needs to do extra work to fit that into the export frame rate.


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Abu TamyrRe: Rendering tume on Adobe Premiere
by on Aug 5, 2016 at 7:55:09 am

Thanks for suggesting that. Could you please elaborate on t that idea though because I don't see anything unusual about the source frame rate. It's set at 30fps progressive and 48,000 khz audio. I'm still new to adobe so I'm interested in your perspective.


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Tero AhlforsRe: Rendering tume on Adobe Premiere
by on Aug 5, 2016 at 10:54:13 am

Your source frame rate is 29.698 and that doesn't fit any standard. You've probably shot with a variable frame rate and made a sequence from that file. Premiere expects a constant frame rate.


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Jeff PuleraRe: Rendering tume on Adobe Premiere
by on Aug 5, 2016 at 2:12:55 pm

Max Render Quality is helpful when SCALING the output, such as 1080p to 720p, or HD to SD. For 1080 to 1080, turn it off as suggested, just slowing down the export with no benefit.

I agree that the mismatch of frame rates may be taking a very long time to process due to frame rate conversion. Make your sequence 29.97

What is the source of your video clips, some sort of screen capture utility perhaps? Many of those apps are now using Variable Frame Rate, not to be confused with Variable Bit Rate. Premiere does not like Variable Frame Rate at all! Best advice is to convert the footage to standard frame rate (29.97) using HandBrake software before starting any editing if that is indeed the case. Will really improve the workflow.

Using a standard 29.97 source clip and turning off Max Render, your export times should be dramatically faster.

Thanks

Jeff Pulera
Safe Harbor Computers


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Abu TamyrRe: Rendering tume on Adobe Premiere
by on Aug 5, 2016 at 5:09:26 pm

Thanks Jeff Pulera.

No, I am not using a screen capture app. I am filming 2 different angles. I shoot one angle with a Gopro and the other using my samsung
galaxy S5 phone using the front camera. Perhaps it is the phone Camera that is the cause of the problem.

I will try your suggestion of converting frame rates and then i will report back.

I am so thankful for the knowledge this forum provides.


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Abu TamyrRe: Rendering tume on Adobe Premiere
by on Aug 5, 2016 at 5:18:13 pm

Here is an example of the videos i am making as i prepare for the upcoming school year.







This particular video is an example of an 11 hour render.


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Dave LaRondeRe: Rendering tume on Adobe Premiere
by on Aug 5, 2016 at 10:16:53 pm

That's a pretty neat way to teach Algebra. But Tero is spot-on about the frame rates -- they have to match! If I'm shooting this, I'm standardizing on 29.97 frames/sec. That's a standard frame rate, known far and wide.

Whichever camera is NOT shooting at that frame rate, you gotta make it do it. Life will get a lot easier.

Dave LaRonde
Promotion Producer
KGAN (CBS) & KFXA (Fox) Cedar Rapids, IA


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Tero AhlforsRe: Rendering tume on Adobe Premiere
by on Aug 6, 2016 at 10:46:58 am

[Abu Tamyr] "Perhaps it is the phone Camera that is the cause of the problem. "

Yeah. Phones usually shoot in variable frame rate.


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Abu TamyrRe: Rendering tume on Adobe Premiere
by on Aug 6, 2016 at 2:42:47 pm

Thanks Dave Laronde...i try to keep my math lessons Fresh.

So i used the Handbrake software to convert the 29.76 video into 29.97. After importing the converted video into adobe, it still recognizes it as 29.76fps.


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