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Bob JonesTwo audio tracks, Denoiser on each, different results.
by on Aug 3, 2016 at 10:23:06 am

So sick and tired of Premiere and its buggy inconsistency.

I have two audio tracks. I already can't use Denoiser on the clips themselves because of the well known bug of the 2-second delay. So I do the workaround of applying track-wide Denoiser. Thought I had it solved.

Nope!

Each track has the same exact Denoiser params. Each track is full of audio from the exact same audio source.

One track sounds one way, one track the other. I've tried every combination of turning off Denoiser on each track, moving clips back and forth, etc. Nothing works- each track is having the exact same filter carry out a different auditory effect on its clips.

Awesome.

Any ideas?


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Bob JonesRe: Two audio tracks, Denoiser on each, different results.
by on Aug 3, 2016 at 10:43:37 am

Discovered a solution. Awesome Adobe, you strike again: I needed to turn Reduction from On to Off to On again.

God I truly hate this program.

The minute someone comes up with an editor with an equivalent or superior interface, man how quickly I'm jumping ship.


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Daniel WaldronRe: Two audio tracks, Denoiser on each, different results.
by on Aug 3, 2016 at 6:37:16 pm

Man, you must hate Avid, Resolve, Final Cut, or Vegas more than Premiere if you're still sticking with it. I can't imagine sounding as frustrated as you and not just moving on to a different platform.


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Bob JonesRe: Two audio tracks, Denoiser on each, different results.
by on Aug 3, 2016 at 8:27:55 pm

Yeah, the problem is it's *just* good and familiar enough to make me love it when it does work. It's all the other times I can't stand.


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Bob JonesRe: Two audio tracks, Denoiser on each, different results.
by on Aug 3, 2016 at 11:28:48 am

Unbelievable. Still as messed up as ever in the final render. The tracks instead of clips approach does nothing- each clip still has a two second delay before denoiser kicks in. Premiere, this may officially be it for you.


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Jon DoughtieRe: Two audio tracks, Denoiser on each, different results.
by on Aug 3, 2016 at 2:19:48 pm

Bob, I hear your frustration. It is clearly distressing you quite a bit.

Have you tried doing it in Audition to see if you get better results? I'm with you - I do not always want to make the round-trip into another application. But sometimes the PPro built-in FX aren't up to the particular task-at-hand, and the trip to another app needs to happen.

You may have already done this, of course. Just wanted you to know you were heard.

System:
Dell Precision T7600 (x2)
Win 7 64-bit
32GB RAM
Adobe CC 2015.02 (as of 6/2016)
256GB SSD system drive
4 internal media drives RAID 5
Typically cutting short form from HD MP4 and P2 MXF.


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Dave LaRondeRe: Two audio tracks, Denoiser on each, different results.
by on Aug 3, 2016 at 2:43:48 pm
Last Edited By Dave LaRonde on Aug 3, 2016 at 4:31:01 pm

..and here's a thought: if you're on a Mac you have access to what's reputed to a fine editing application--DaVinci Resolve. It's FREE. If you like how it performs, you can drop PP like a hot potato.

Not to mention that DaVinci Resolve is pretty good at color correction, too....

Dave LaRonde
Promotion Producer
KGAN (CBS) & KFXA (Fox) Cedar Rapids, IA


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Bob JonesRe: Two audio tracks, Denoiser on each, different results.
by on Aug 3, 2016 at 8:29:08 pm

On a PC :\


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Tero AhlforsRe: Two audio tracks, Denoiser on each, different results.
by on Aug 3, 2016 at 9:08:20 pm

[Dave LaRonde] "if you're on a Mac you have access to what's reputed to a fine editing application--DaVinci Resolve"

That's also available on Windows. I would disagree with the "fine editing application"-remark though.


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Bob JonesRe: Two audio tracks, Denoiser on each, different results.
by on Aug 3, 2016 at 8:28:41 pm

Yeah, I know. Does it strike no one though as odd/frustrating that this is the solution (and that there are many others like it)? When was the last time you were told: "Oh, that's broken in Photoshop- just fix it in Illustrator!"


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Dave LaRondeRe: Two audio tracks, Denoiser on each, different results.
by on Aug 3, 2016 at 9:14:28 pm
Last Edited By Dave LaRonde on Aug 3, 2016 at 9:17:53 pm

[Bob Jones] "When was the last time you were told: "Oh, that's broken in Photoshop- just fix it in Illustrator!""

Yeah, this Creative Cloud concept is just workin' like a dream, isn't it?

Dave LaRonde
Promotion Producer
KGAN (CBS) & KFXA (Fox) Cedar Rapids, IA


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