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Chris ConleeWhere's the Marker Window?
by on May 7, 2016 at 12:01:11 am

I've just spent a couple hours adding markers in a long sequence so I can find particular lines of dialog very easily. Now I just need to find the marker window that lets me navigate the markers with my notes.

Chris


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Wallace Adrian D'AlessioRe: Where's the Marker Window?
by on May 7, 2016 at 1:13:44 am

You can navigate markers right on your timeline or preview window with key commands or manual clicks.

You also have a marker panel available from the Windows menu ( as for all panels).

Also you can navigate markers from the Marker menu on the top bar. So that is 3 ways. Learning the keyboard shortcut commands early rather than putting it off for years will be to your great advantage an dunderstanding as well. Don't be afraid of them. They are great work savers. That makes 4 ways of dealing with markers.

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Chris ConleeRe: Where's the Marker Window?
by on May 7, 2016 at 1:19:03 am

What's up with the Marker window tho? As soon as I click on a marker, all the others disappear, and I then have to close and re-open it to get my markers back. I just want a simple list that I can click on to jump to a marker of my choice, and if I don't like that take I want to be able to click to another one (they're not consecutive sound bites, so timeline sequential navigation isn't the most useful right now).


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Andrew KimeryRe: Where's the Marker Window?
by on May 7, 2016 at 4:07:24 pm

[Chris Conlee] "What's up with the Marker window tho? As soon as I click on a marker, all the others disappear,"

That's weird. I haven't seen that behavior before. Are you on OSX or Windows?


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Chris ConleeRe: Where's the Marker Window?
by on May 7, 2016 at 4:25:52 pm

OS X. As soon as I touch ANYTHING, the marker window goes blank. If I touch a marker, the playhead jumps to that spot, but marker window goes blank. If I touch the timeline, the marker window goes blank. In order for it to repopulate, I have to close it and reopen.

C


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Wallace Adrian D'AlessioRe: Where's the Marker Window?
by on May 7, 2016 at 4:43:27 pm

Is it possible your machine is not up to the task of holding all of the program and the load of clips and other data?

Have you turned on your hardware monitor to look at CPU, GPU and RAM load? Are you running clips off a slow disk? Or a slow bus?

So many variables here.

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Chris ConleeRe: Where's the Marker Window?
by on May 7, 2016 at 10:07:37 pm
Last Edited By Chris Conlee on May 7, 2016 at 10:11:08 pm

No, my machine is pretty up to snuff. Here's a video of what's happening, for anybody interested.







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Chris ConleeRe: Where's the Marker Window?
by on May 7, 2016 at 11:29:03 pm

Okay, the fine users in Adobe's forum helped me figure some things out. Here's an update.







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Matt GaluszewskiRe: Where's the Marker Window?
by on May 8, 2016 at 12:56:29 am

The reason why the window goes blank when you click on the clip is because Premiere is attempting to show your clip markers, which you don't have.

Regards



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Chris ConleeRe: Where's the Marker Window?
by on May 8, 2016 at 1:30:33 am

Yeah, I get that. The problem I was having before, as the first video showed, is that the marker list was clearing when I simply scrolled the playhead, and then wouldn't repopulate.

C


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Wallace Adrian D'AlessioRe: Where's the Marker Window?
by on May 8, 2016 at 1:43:07 am

You say your machine has the resources. But the videos tell a different story.

I think you are working with too much at once for your machine.
Try shying half the layers and see how it works.

I still think you should open a system monitor to see how the hardware is actually dealing with it.

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Chris ConleeRe: Where's the Marker Window?
by on May 8, 2016 at 1:47:32 am

Well then I say Premiere Pro is a resource hog, cause I've got 24GB of RAM, 12TB of fast storage, and graphics card that meets spec. All I can say is I would be able to cut this feature in Avid without breaking a sweat. Not trying to get in a NLE war here, but if I'm pushing it to hard cutting a narrative feature with no FX, maybe it's not ready for prime time?

C


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Wallace Adrian D'AlessioRe: Where's the Marker Window?
by on May 8, 2016 at 1:56:23 am

A dump file from Activity Monitor would cut through the parsiflage.

And Did you check to see what you have the Adobe prefs set to use? Are you using a CUDA capable GPU ?


I started earlier to make comments about workflow between news room Avid users and Premiere users.
But I cut them out.

And for what you are doing I would be choosing After Effects anyway.

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Chris ConleeRe: Where's the Marker Window?
by on May 8, 2016 at 2:02:34 am

Wallace, you'd choose to cut a feature film in After Effects? I've cut about 90 Features and television shows, and have never once chosen to do so in After Effects. Yes, the card is CUDA capable and being used. The only reason i'm using PP now, by the way, is because it came to me already started that way. But I'm starting to lean to the "never again" category.

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Wallace Adrian D'AlessioRe: Where's the Marker Window?
by on May 8, 2016 at 7:11:59 am

Why didn't you just reexport it into FCP? Or as an EDM to convert for Avid ? It shouldn't be that hard.

I'm not quite sure what you are doing with the stack as it is , it just looks like a hard way to work. And nO I would not Start with AE but I would finish with it other than titling. It handles complexity better.
And for the work that it looks like you are doing some clip time remapping looks like it could help.


You did not say anything about your drives or the busses they are on. And I am wondering why you are not looking at a hardware monitor and even setting up error logging to trace the problem.

You have your Adobe resources set to use the maximum RAM, Your drives and busses are fast enough.
and your GPU is crunching the hard stuff. So other than some simple setting I do not see why the Marker panel is getting lost.

A brief search showed that one clip marker issue (markers dissappearing) is solved by opening prefs> media> and making sure " Write clip markers to XMP" is checked.



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Wallace Adrian D'AlessioRe: Where's the Marker Window?
by on May 8, 2016 at 7:17:50 am

Prelude is something I have not worked much with. But some tout it as the way to cut for "newsies" who need to hose it out the door fast.

It is not very Adobe-Like, so it may work for you to cut before sending to Premiere.

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Andrew KimeryRe: Where's the Marker Window?
by on May 8, 2016 at 7:38:50 am

Might be an odd corruption specific to that project or to your install of PPro. Have you tried reseting your preferences (details in link below)?

http://www.versluis.com/2015/06/how-to-reset-user-preferences-in-premiere-p...


I've been using PPro for a few years now and I haven't run into the behavior you experienced (and I use markers often enough that the Marker Window has a permanent spot in my window layout).

With regards to clicking different places in the time line, you are seeing the difference between clicking on a totally empty track and clicking on a gap between two clips. The gap highlights because it can be deleted via a ripple delete. There's nothing to edit/manipulate/select in the totally empty track which is why it doesn't highlight when you click on it. Shift+click will also unhighlight a highlighted clip/gap in the timeline. You can also adjust your video track height to give yourself some dead space between the top video track and the numbers/hashmarks at the top of the sequence window and clicking in that dead space will also unhighlight anything in the sequence that is highlighted. Shift+Command+A will also unhighlight everything (that's more a universal OSX command, Command+A is 'select all' and Shift+Command+A is 'deselect all').


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Chris ConleeRe: Where's the Marker Window?
by on May 8, 2016 at 3:31:57 pm
Last Edited By Chris Conlee on May 8, 2016 at 3:33:35 pm

Hi Wallace,

The footage you're seeing in my video is an hour or so of "sports broadcasters" reading back random lines that the director is giving them, shot with two cameras. Therefore I synced them and figured rather than subsequencing it all I would simply watch it and throw down markers for later reference. Since it was all "off the cuff" sorts of things, ie. unscripted, I knew I wouldn't be needing it all, but still wanted some way to reference what was there.

It's all dialog, with no motion-ramping of any sort. Very simple stuff.

I appreciate your effort to help, but I'm not a newsie. ;)

I'm an editor on The Flash, Once Upon A Time (among others), and probably 50 feature films, so matters of process are largely understood.

http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0174749

Yes I'm an Avid-centric guy, so other workflows can frustrate me.

The reason I'm in Premiere Pro is because the project came to me that way, and the director is comfortable in Premiere.

It seems to be working now, so I'm going to just keep chugging, since I need to have my cut ready to present to the director in less than a week. I've been using computers since the '70s (Sinclair and TRS-80, anybody?) and worked thru the Amiga years, etc. I'm fully capable of trouble-shooting hardware when needed.

If I were to make Premiere my chosen day-to-day editor, believe me I'd cross all the Ts and dot all the Is. This machine is tuned for Avid, so I'm not going to change anything major for one project.


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Wallace Adrian D'AlessioRe: Where's the Marker Window?
by on May 8, 2016 at 6:53:59 pm

The cause of the "disappearing clip markers" is not yet defined.

Without furtherinsight the problem is left unresolved for others who will seek out this thread.

My guess is system overload.

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