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Glenn SakatchPremiere to Resolve, incorrect timecodes.
by on Apr 9, 2016 at 5:08:27 pm

(This is a cross post from Resolve, hoping someone in Premiere land has some ideas)

I am an Avid editor, and do a ton of back and forth from Avid to Resolve. My workflow is solid.

I own Premiere Pro CS6 so that i can output lists if necessary, but my knowledge of the program revolves around being able to launch it, load a sequence, and export a list- either XML or AAF.

I have never had success getting a list (XML or AAF) from premiere to Resolve. Yes, the clips come in, but they are never at the correct timecode.

I currently have a 10 min film cut by someone else on Premiere. I bring in the list, and the shots come in connected to the correct source media, but the picture is not matching my reference movie. (which i output from premiere before i generated the list)

Some shots are out by a frame or two, others by a much larger amount. I have yet to find a shot that is correct.

I have brought an AAF into Avid, with the same results.

The project is 23.976, 1920 x 1080. Premiere seems to see the sequence and source footage at that frame rate. The source footage appears to be at that frame rate.

The entire sequence is very simple. There is one shot that is running backwards. Other than that, every shot is a basic edit.

I am just outputting another reference from Premiere with source tc burn to see if the timecodes are matching, but the picture isn't, or if something else might be the problem.

Does anyone use this workflow effectively?

quick update, my source tc burn is actually showing a different timecode coming out of the list, that what Premiere is showing on the timeline.

I would think this leads to premiere interpreting this footage incorrectly, but the interpret footage tab seems to be correct. (23.976)

Avid and Resolve also see the footage as 23.976.

Is there somewhere else in premiere where this setting could be changed?

Could premiere somehow be assigning drop frame numbers to my 23.976 footage as it creates the list?

(further update)

The footage is all from an Odyssey recorder, HD ProRes Quicktimes.
Avid, Resolve and Premiere all tag the footage as 23.976.

I took the sequence into Avid, with the source tc burn as a guide and slipped each shot to match the timecode of the burn guide.

Shots were out from 2 to 24 frames. No shot was more than 24 frames out. Every shot in Avid was earlier in time than where it needed to be.

This project is now ready to go (from Avid) to Resolve, but I would still like to know what Premiere is doing to this footage as it creates the list.




Glenn

Glenn


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David Roth WeissRe: Premiere to Resolve, incorrect timecodes.
by on Apr 9, 2016 at 5:28:29 pm

Since your seq is so simple, have you tried an old fashioned EDL to see if it differs from the XML or AAF?

David Roth Weiss
Director/Editor/Colorist & Workflow Consultant
David Weiss Productions
Los Angeles


David is a Creative COW contributing editor and a forum host of the Apple Final Cut Pro forum.


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Glenn SakatchRe: Premiere to Resolve, incorrect timecodes.
by on Apr 9, 2016 at 8:13:33 pm

I haven't. That's a good idea. Might be the easiest way to see what numbers are being spit out.

Glenn


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