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Ken S.1080p on DVD?
by on Jul 17, 2015 at 12:02:55 am

I just bought some lens fx overlays and they arrived on DVD as .mov 1080 files. They are advertised as 1080p, but can DVD deliver true 1080p?
Here is the link to the product.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Lens-FX-Bundle-with-Fantasy-One-Prism-Light-Overlay...


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Chris BorjisRe: 1080p on DVD?
by on Jul 17, 2015 at 12:16:13 am

if they are files (very likely) on a "data" dvd disc yes



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walter biscardiRe: 1080p on DVD?
by on Jul 17, 2015 at 12:21:56 am

Those are just file, as long as the total data amount is under the total storage for a DVD, yep you can put anything you want on there. You're not going to play those in a DVD Player, it's just a storage device in your case.

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David Roth WeissRe: 1080p on DVD?
by on Jul 17, 2015 at 12:23:51 am

DVD video can't deliver HD period, forget about "true HD" whatever that means. DVDs are all SD, either widescreen or 4x3. If you truly need HD, BluRays are your ticket.

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walter biscardiRe: 1080p on DVD?
by on Jul 17, 2015 at 4:03:03 am

[David Roth Weiss] "DVD video can't deliver HD period, forget about "true HD" whatever that means. DVDs are all SD, either widescreen or 4x3. If you truly need HD, BluRays are your ticket."

David, he's asking about stock footage elements that are shipped on DVDs for use in editing. Not a playable DVD. You can follow the link.

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Chris BorjisRe: 1080p on DVD?
by on Jul 17, 2015 at 4:20:28 pm

[David Roth Weiss] " forget about "true HD" whatever that means"

I always get annoyed too when I see posts in forums of someone mentioning "TRUE".

it is or isn't ha ha.



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David Roth WeissRe: 1080p on DVD?
by on Jul 17, 2015 at 4:23:01 pm

Agreed Chris... I've always wondered what false HD looks like...

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Ken S.Re: 1080p on DVD?
by on Jul 17, 2015 at 3:49:34 am

This is exactly why I am asking, some say if it's data files you can save 1080, others say no matter what, DVD can not deliver true hd. What are the facts. the .mov files are 1080p on the DVD.

I know digital juice did the same thing and delivered their HD animations on DVD's in .mov files. So the question, since they are data files they are not limited by the max bit rate in comparison when they are produced for dvd players? And as such you can record true hd in any bit rate as long as they fit on the dvd?


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walter biscardiRe: 1080p on DVD?
by on Jul 17, 2015 at 4:01:53 am

[Ken S.] "What are the facts. the .mov files are 1080p on the DVD. "

If they are quicktime movies, those are data. A DVD that's designed to play video uses MPEG2 files.

Data files have no constraint on being delivered via DVD other than the maximum storage availability of a DVD. You said those are stock footage files, they delivered via a DVD. That DVD is not designed to play in a home player. It is simply a storage device.

[Ken S.] " So the question, since they are data files they are not limited by the max bit rate in comparison when they are produced for dvd players?"

You're confusing a playable DVD with Digital files being shipped on a DVD. Two completely different things.
A playable DVD is limited to SD video. Digital Files are limited to the amount of storage space on a DVD, around 4.2GB.

[Ken S.] " And as such you can record true hd in any bit rate as long as they fit on the dvd?"

Bit rate for the HD file has nothing to do with the DVD. There are many MANY bit rates for HD files depending on delivery specs. You can put any file on a DVD, including a 4k UHD file or an 8k file, so long as the maximum file size fits on the DVD. Again around 4.2GB of maximum file size.

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David Roth WeissRe: 1080p on DVD?
by on Jul 17, 2015 at 4:11:59 am

Yes!

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Jon DoughtieRe: 1080p on DVD?
by on Jul 17, 2015 at 2:11:10 pm

Ken, there's two ways DVD discs are used. One way is to use them as "video DVDs." The other is "data DVDs."

Video DVDs play in your DVD player. The content is formatted in a very particular way that DVD players use to display menus, navigate, select subtitles and audio tracks, play your movie, etc. These DVDs will also often play in your computer DVD drive as a video DVD. The video quality of video DVDs is always standard def, generally 720x480 interlaced. As mentioned above, video content on these discs is formatted MPEG2, and appears in the file structure as .VOB files.

Data DVDs are just that - portable optical storage of data in all kinds of files. They function as removable storage just like the old diskettes or ZIP drives, except they hold much more of course, and you generally write to them only once.

What you likely have are data DVDs which can hold any kind of file, including HD video, provided the files do not exceed the maximum capacity of the DVD.


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Paul NeumannRe: 1080p on DVD?
by on Jul 17, 2015 at 2:27:54 pm

Think digital versatile disc.


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Ken S.Re: 1080p on DVD?
by on Jul 17, 2015 at 4:30:42 pm

Thank you guys for the helpful information. I haven't used DVD's for a long time, and when I did it was primarily to create dvd media for desktop players. Thanks again for the thorough explanations and quick responses.


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