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Yair Bartalclipwrap alternative for windows?
by on Mar 30, 2015 at 4:59:05 pm

Looking for alternative for clipwrap that works on windows for rewraping AVCHD files.
I've found only transcoding software.

I'd appreciate any info.


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Alex UdellRe: clipwrap alternative for windows?
by on Mar 30, 2015 at 8:13:52 pm

Not to get into a long discussion…

but is the intent to use clip wrap and then to import to PPro?


thanks…

Alex


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Yair BartalRe: clipwrap alternative for windows?
by on Mar 30, 2015 at 8:32:47 pm

Yes it is.


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Alex UdellRe: clipwrap alternative for windows?
by on Mar 30, 2015 at 10:33:55 pm
Last Edited By Alex Udell on Mar 30, 2015 at 10:34:24 pm

Wrapping the files, although convenient at the OS level may not provide the best experience for PPro (even if you could find it).

PPro looks at the extension of the file to determine the technology pathway to decode the file.

QT under windows is still essentially a 32 bit pathway. So it's not the fastest available.

so you may actually be hindering performance and making Premiere force the stream thru a slower pipe.

so that may be one reason not to do that….

not trying to confuse ya…but just trying to offer a path that might give you a better result.

hth,

Alex Udell
Editing, Motion Graphics, and Visual FX


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Yair BartalRe: clipwrap alternative for windows?
by on Mar 31, 2015 at 4:07:40 am
Last Edited By Yair Bartal on Mar 31, 2015 at 10:11:07 am

Thank you Alex for your response, I wasn't aware of that.
So if I transcode instead, what would be the recommended container/codec to use for windows?


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Alex UdellRe: clipwrap alternative for windows?
by on Mar 31, 2015 at 5:36:31 pm

Is there a workflow reason you'd transcode?

or is it that you are looking for a performance benefit?

Alex Udell
Editing, Motion Graphics, and Visual FX


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Yair BartalRe: clipwrap alternative for windows?
by on Mar 31, 2015 at 5:50:32 pm
Last Edited By Yair Bartal on Mar 31, 2015 at 5:51:14 pm

Well, we're members of a communication center sharing a video camera and each member takes the camera for a mission.
It's more convenient for us to share the SD card in camera so that everyone just copies his files.
With AVCHD it's not recommended to copy the mts files, but to copy the whole card for each member.
That's a lot of redundant work and waste of storage.


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Alex UdellRe: clipwrap alternative for windows?
by on Mar 31, 2015 at 7:03:23 pm
Last Edited By Alex Udell on Mar 31, 2015 at 7:03:50 pm

OK….

so you may want to look at going thru Prelude. this will let you browse pick and choose what you want to pull off the card.

and while a number of codecs would probably work….how about giving the new GoPro Cineform codec a whirl?







Alex


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Alex UdellRe: clipwrap alternative for windows?
by on Mar 31, 2015 at 7:05:58 pm

And just like that I stick my foot in my mouth…because this one is wrapped in a .MOV…


sigh….

well take a look anyway….

Alex Udell
Editing, Motion Graphics, and Visual FX


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Walter SoykaRe: clipwrap alternative for windows?
by on Apr 7, 2015 at 12:57:50 pm

[Alex Udell] "QT under windows is still essentially a 32 bit pathway. So it's not the fastest available."

This is true.


[Alex Udell] "PPro looks at the extension of the file to determine the technology pathway to decode the file."

This is a good rule of thumb, but it's also an over-simplification. Pr uses Adobe's media handling library, MediaCore, to encode/decode MOV files with certain specific, supported codecs. If a codec is not supported by MediaCore, encode/decode falls back to the significantly slower pathway you mentioned: communicating with Apple's 32-bit QuickTime system via the 32-bit helper process which uses the internal network stack.


[Alex Udell] "And just like that I stick my foot in my mouth…because this one is wrapped in a .MOV… sigh…. well take a look anyway…."

CineForm is one of the codecs directly implemented with high performance in MediaCore. You can read and write CineForm MOVs on Windows without "Adobe QT32 Server.exe" running.

Walter Soyka
Designer & Mad Scientist at Keen Live [link]
Motion Graphics, Widescreen Events, Presentation Design, and Consulting
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Yair BartalRe: clipwrap alternative for windows?
by on Mar 31, 2015 at 7:11:02 pm

well, I knew about the Prelude option, but tried to find a solution without the need for it.
Thanks anyway.


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Steve BrameRe: clipwrap alternative for windows?
by on Mar 31, 2015 at 7:59:29 pm

I like the DNxHD OP1a transcode setting in Prelude.

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Mark DAgostinoRe: clipwrap alternative for windows?
by on Apr 2, 2015 at 11:59:05 am

I've been transcoding AVCHD to ProRes422 in Prelude and everything works smoothly. I use Prelude because I work with four other editors and we have a media management system that picks up the metadata we input in Prelude so all of us can find assets on our server.

Mark D'Agostino
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Creative Media Productions - Exelon
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Yair BartalRe: clipwrap alternative for windows?
by on Apr 2, 2015 at 12:06:23 pm

BTW I couldn't find a clear answer as to what I'm missing when I copy an mts file from within the SD card with AVCHD when for example:

1. The length of the shot is less than the file split limit.
2. Audio is a single channel, mono or stereo.

Any info?


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