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Alex UdellKeyframes beyond clip extents
by on Feb 17, 2015 at 8:39:33 pm

Hi All...

a lot of times want a clip to be in motion (scale, rotation) beyond the extents of what's used on the timeline ( even beyond transitions )

I find this a little clunky to set up, usually involving moving it to a empty track extending the trim, etc…

do any of you guys have a easy less cumbersome way to accomplish this?


thanks!

Alex Udell
Editing, Motion Graphics, and Visual FX


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David Roth WeissRe: Keyframes beyond clip extents
by on Feb 17, 2015 at 9:31:29 pm

Hey Alex,

I understand your question and wish I had a really elegant response for you, but I don't.

What I do is to move the clip to another track, extend it well beyond where I really need it, add key frames on both the head and tail, then I trim the clip to the length needed.

David Roth Weiss
Director/Editor/Colorist
David Weiss Productions


David is a Creative COW contributing editor and a forum host of the Apple Final Cut Pro forum.


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Alex UdellRe: Keyframes beyond clip extents
by on Feb 17, 2015 at 9:42:41 pm

David…

so I'll make feature request…

what do you think….?

Allow increased zoom out in effects controls?

Alex Udell
Editing, Motion Graphics, and Visual FX


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David Roth WeissRe: Keyframes beyond clip extents
by on Feb 17, 2015 at 9:49:19 pm

It never hurts to ask...

David Roth Weiss
Director/Editor/Colorist
David Weiss Productions


David is a Creative COW contributing editor and a forum host of the Apple Final Cut Pro forum.


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Paul NeumannRe: Keyframes beyond clip extents
by on Feb 18, 2015 at 4:59:38 am

As long as the enough heads and tails exist you can put the keyframes in. Try it. Put 3 clips back to back to back on a timeline. Highlight the middle one and put your CTI 10 frames before the head then enter in a scale keyframe in the Effects Controls Panel. You won't see it but it's there. Then go 10 frames past the end of the clip and enter another scale keyframe. The scaling on the clip will start 10 frames before you see it and continue for 10 frames after the clip ends.

This is easy to check. Say you set your first scale value for 75%. When you check the scale value on the first frame of visible video it will be at like 78% or so.


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Massimo Alberto CroceRe: Keyframes beyond clip extents
by on Feb 18, 2015 at 9:51:37 am

I don't know if I understand your problem, maybe on page 329 of premiere pro reference manual, you can find your solution, it is call "Pin To Clip".
Ciao Massimo

Massimo Alberto Croce
Video Editor, Colorist, Pro Tools Editor
massimoalberto.croce@gmail.com


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Alex UdellRe: Keyframes beyond clip extents
by on Feb 18, 2015 at 11:26:22 am

Paul...

that's helpful.


I think I'd like the option to see them though....

Alex Udell
Editing, Motion Graphics, and Visual FX


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Paul NeumannRe: Keyframes beyond clip extents
by on Feb 18, 2015 at 2:44:47 pm

But I nailed the less cumbersome part, didn't I? And I like Cumbersome. He's really good in that Sherlock Holmes thing and that new movie too.


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Alex UdellRe: Keyframes beyond clip extents
by on Feb 18, 2015 at 2:55:17 pm

I have become….










Cumbersome…. :)

Alex Udell
Editing, Motion Graphics, and Visual FX


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Jim TownleyRe: Keyframes beyond clip extents
by on Feb 18, 2015 at 8:30:08 pm

When placing a transition after keyframes are set - the program will add handles in the Effect Controls panel. You will notice that the keyframe at the end of the clip is not at the edge of the window.







Just drag that keyframe to the edge of the window put the playhead in effect controls on that last keyframe and you will see the playhead is now at the end of the dissolve.





Same thing works for the head of the clip.

Jim Townley
Television Production
Chattahoochee Technical College
Marietta, GA


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Ann BensRe: Keyframes beyond clip extents
by on Feb 18, 2015 at 9:17:00 pm

Open clip in effect controls, uncheck Pin to Clip and zoom out.
Ample space for editing keyframes.

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