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Dennis Radeke
Premiere Pro and Production Premium CS5.5
on Apr 11, 2011 at 11:55:12 am

Thought people would like a link with their morning coffee.

http://www.adobe.com/products/creativesuite/production.html


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Eric Jurgenson
Re: Premiere Pro and Production Premium CS5.5
on Apr 11, 2011 at 2:30:03 pm

Am I the only one who thinks $400. for a point upgrade is totally over the top? The only significant new feature I see in Premiere is closed caption support, and that may not be complete (I'm guessing SDI embedding via 3rd party adaptors only; no MPEG TS file embedding).

OK, we are getting Audition back, which is great, although I ALREADY HAVE IT.

Can someone explain to me why this is a good deal?



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Tom Daigon
Re: Premiere Pro and Production Premium CS5.5
on Apr 11, 2011 at 2:42:50 pm

Eric, I also feel the $400 point upgrade is ridiculous. I understand that last year was a big enhancement to CS5, so I didnt expect a lot from NAB this year.But for what they are offering $400 is an insult. I certainly WILL NOT upgrade. I can get more bang for bucks with other investments. And since I use FCP for all but compositing and effects, the addition of Audition (which is still weak compared to Soundtrack Pro) is no great motivator for me.

Tom Daigon
Avid DS / FCP / After Effects Editor
http://www.hdshotsandcuts.com


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Micah McDowell
Unhappy with Adobe
on Apr 11, 2011 at 3:12:43 pm

My problem is that the current CS5 has issues... it's got several unresolvable bugs that make it unusable where I work, and there's no way in the world that we're going to pay for a minor upgrade to fix things that should just work in the first place. And they're issues recognized as bugs by Adobe, no less.

I don't need new functionality; what's there just needs to work without crashes or goofy incompatibility issues.
NOT happy.


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Shawn Lam, MPV
Re: Unhappy with Adobe
on Apr 11, 2011 at 3:57:07 pm

Give it a try before you make-up your mind. Premiere Pro CS5.5 has a .5 name but it is a full update.

Speed is a big improvement, thanks to additional unlocking of he GPU when using approved NVIDIA CUDA cards. The link audio feature is really nice for DSLR shooters and those with multiple audio tracks and closed captioning support is a pretty big deal too (of note: Sony announced support for GPU on ATI cards and CC support on Vegas today).

On After Effects the Warp Stabilizer is a feature DSLR and handheld shooters will want to add to their workflow because it works and is easy to use and tweak.

Here's a link to my EventDV review of Production Premium CS5.5 http://www.eventdv.net/Articles/News/Feature/Benchmarking-Adobe-Premiere-Pr...

Shawn Lam, MPV


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John Young
Re: Unhappy with Adobe
on Apr 11, 2011 at 4:23:37 pm

When was 5.5 released? I just bought CS5 Production Premium on Wednesday. I don't need the upgrade right?

http://www.johnathanyoung.com


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John Young
Re: Unhappy with Adobe
on Apr 11, 2011 at 5:49:34 pm

And then today, I got an email from Adobe saying I would get a free 5.5 upgrade. OK I feel better now.

http://www.johnathanyoung.com


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Micah McDowell
Re: Unhappy with Adobe
on Apr 11, 2011 at 6:03:40 pm

I wonder how far back that offer goes? We bought in January.


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Jason Jenkins
Free Upgrade to CS5.5?
on Apr 11, 2011 at 6:12:15 pm

I just bought the Master Collection CS5 on April 1st! It would be nice to get a free upgrade to CS5.5.

Jason Jenkins
Flowmotion Media
Video production... with style!


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David Roth Weiss
Re: Free Upgrade to CS5.5?
on Apr 12, 2011 at 12:09:46 am

[Jason Jenkins] "I just bought the Master Collection CS5 on April 1st!"

Turncoat! No more FCP help for you anymore... :)

David Roth Weiss
Director/Editor/Colorist
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Los Angeles
http://www.drwfilms.com

POST-PRODUCTION WITHOUT THE USUAL INSANITY ™


A forum host of Creative COW's Business & Marketing and Apple Final Cut Pro forums. Formerly host of the Apple Final Cut Basics, Indie Film & Documentary, and Film History & Appreciations forums.


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Jason Jenkins
Re: Free Upgrade to CS5.5?
on Apr 12, 2011 at 2:32:06 am

[David Roth Weiss] "[Jason Jenkins] "I just bought the Master Collection CS5 on April 1st!"

Turncoat! No more FCP help for you anymore... :)"


Haha! I've had one version or another of the Adobe suite longer than I've had Final Cut Studio. I can't do without Photoshop, After Effects and Illustrator. Premiere Pro is pretty nice too. Options are always good!

Jason Jenkins
Flowmotion Media
Video production... with style!


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Jay Gladwell
Re: Unhappy with Adobe
on Apr 11, 2011 at 8:51:28 pm

You have to have bought CS5 on March 11 or later to qualify for a free upgrade.

I missed it by 10 days.



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Jason Jenkins
Re: Unhappy with Adobe
on Apr 12, 2011 at 2:01:13 pm

Shawn, that link is to an old CS5 article, not a CS5.5 review.

Jason Jenkins
Flowmotion Media
Video production... with style!


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Shawn Lam, MPV
Re: Unhappy with Adobe
on Apr 12, 2011 at 3:41:49 pm

Sorry - wrong link. Here's the CS5.5 review:

http://www.eventdv.net/Articles/News/Feature/Review-Adobe-CS5.5-Production-...

Shawn Lam, MPV


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David Cherniack
Re: Premiere Pro and Production Premium CS5.5
on Apr 12, 2011 at 11:06:47 am

Having the old Audition is not quite the same thing as Audition CS5.5. Aside from some useful new features the new version has a back and forth work flow with Premiere Pro, where whole timelines and clips can be sent from Premiere Pro complete with volume and pan keyframes and stems can be sent back.

David
AllinOneFilms.com


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Todd Kopriva
Re: Premiere Pro and Production Premium CS5.5
on Apr 17, 2011 at 3:18:59 pm

BTW, here are links to what's new and changed:

what's new and changed in Adobe Premiere Pro CS5.5

what's new and changed in Adobe Media Encoder CS5.5

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Todd Kopriva, Adobe Systems Incorporated
Technical Support for professional video software
After Effects Help & Support
Premiere Pro Help & Support
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Alex Geroulaitis
Re: Premiere Pro and Production Premium CS5.5
on Apr 18, 2011 at 6:07:55 pm

Todd,

Is the list of GPUs supported in CS5.0 still out there somewhere? The old link (adobe.com/products/premiere/systemreqs/) redirects to 5.5.

Adobe support page has a link titled "Adobe Premiere Pro CS5 system requirements" (April 30, 2010) - and it's broken as well.

Thanks!

Alex (DV411)


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Todd Kopriva
Re: Premiere Pro and Production Premium CS5.5
on Apr 18, 2011 at 6:38:15 pm

Here's a link to the CS5.5 system requirements:
http://www.adobe.com/products/premiere/tech-specs.html

We just had a big webiste update, and it broke a lot of links. Thanks for pointing this one out.

Regarding the list of cards supported by CS5...

I'm not finding a place where we now have a list for CS5. This page has a list of the new ones added for CS5.5. If you use that alongside the complete list on this page, you can determine which are supported in CS5.

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Todd Kopriva, Adobe Systems Incorporated
Technical Support for professional video software
After Effects Help & Support
Premiere Pro Help & Support
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Alex Geroulaitis
Re: Premiere Pro and Production Premium CS5.5
on Apr 18, 2011 at 7:59:45 pm

Thanks Todd, that would work.

One other question: are there any real-world benchmarks for the CS5.5 improvements in CUDA processing?

Does it matter (much) which supported card is being used (with all other things being equal), and if so, how significant are the differences, and which card is the current "sweet spot"?

Thanks!

Alex (DV411)


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Todd Kopriva
Re: Premiere Pro and Production Premium CS5.5
on Apr 18, 2011 at 8:42:09 pm

> Does it matter (much) which supported card is being used (with all other things being equal), and if so, how significant are the differences, and which card is the current "sweet spot"?


Faster cores means faster processing. More cores means faster processing. These things are pretty obvious.

More VRAM has one possibly non-obvious result. See the end of this post for an example of how inadequate VRAM makes CUDA processing not work at all in the case of large frame/layer sizes.

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Todd Kopriva, Adobe Systems Incorporated
Technical Support for professional video software
After Effects Help & Support
Premiere Pro Help & Support
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Arnold Pistorius
Re: Premiere Pro and Production Premium CS5.5
on Apr 18, 2011 at 4:23:48 pm

I have to agree whats the point? they change the symbol in England so its £400 for us, for minor upgrades patch fixes. FCP X is out in June a brand new product built from the ground up, not an upgrade full program $299 on there app store no additional fees for downloading it. CS5 is where I draw the line, people seem to forget we had to pay upgrade costs to plug-ins we already owned so they could run on CS5. think i have a better chance of just compositing in C4D, than continue to support Adobes outlandish costs for a product that isn't polished...


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George Sey
Re: Premiere Pro and Production Premium CS5.5
on May 1, 2011 at 3:40:51 pm

From all these comments it looks like the future does not look great for Premiere Pro Production Premium CS5.5. They did not even bother any of the suggestions on the suggestions page.
How many things were taken out, we will eventually know.


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Alex Geroulaitis
Re: Premiere Pro and Production Premium CS5.5
on May 2, 2011 at 6:50:54 pm

[George Sey] "From all these comments it looks like the future does not look great for Premiere Pro Production Premium CS5.5"

Beg to disagree: it only looks so for people who already purchased CS5 and for whom the value of the updates and new features does not justify the price. Quite a few CS5 owners will sit this update out - but not all of them.

Alex (DV411)


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