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Yair Bartal
DeNoise effect on all dialog track clips vs applying the effect in the Audio Track Mixer for that track - Premiere Pro 2019
on Jul 23, 2020 at 6:28:29 am

Are these two options equivalent?


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Oliver Peters
Re: DeNoise effect on all dialog track clips vs applying the effect in the Audio Track Mixer for that track - Premiere Pro 2019
on Jul 24, 2020 at 6:23:18 pm

They typically aren't the same, because many de-noise audio plug-ins require some section without talking in order to calculate a noise print to remove that sound from under the dialogue. The better option is to send the audio clip to Audition and use its tools to clean up the track. Then bounce it out (processed and rendered) as a separate clip to use back in Premiere.

Other plug-ins like de-essers and so on on can probably be used on either clip or track. From a workflow standpoint, it's best to group similar sounding clips onto separate tracks and then do all of your processing on the track, not individual clips. For example, A1 - SOT dialogue, A2 - VO, A3 - SFX, A4- music.

- Oliver

Oliver Peters - oliverpeters.com


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Yair Bartal
Re: DeNoise effect on all dialog track clips vs applying the effect in the Audio Track Mixer for that track - Premiere Pro 2019
on Jul 24, 2020 at 6:43:34 pm

Thanks Oliver for your response,
As I understand, none of the two options I've mentioned is generally better than the other, even for only one person talking.
Am I correct?


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Oliver Peters
Re: DeNoise effect on all dialog track clips vs applying the effect in the Audio Track Mixer for that track - Premiere Pro 2019
on Jul 24, 2020 at 7:10:54 pm

If you are using a denoise filter, you typically need have some empty audio (but not blank audio or complete silence) from the track there before the person speaks in order for the effect to properly process. Assuming you have that, then clip or track work the same. But t depends on the plug-in you are using. Some require rendering and others work in real-time.

- Oliver

Oliver Peters - oliverpeters.com


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Oliver Peters
Re: DeNoise effect on all dialog track clips vs applying the effect in the Audio Track Mixer for that track - Premiere Pro 2019
on Jul 24, 2020 at 7:18:00 pm

PS: If you specifically mean this effect in Premiere (#1 in the YT video) -







then it works the same way whether applied to the clip or the track.

- Oliver

Oliver Peters - oliverpeters.com


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Yair Bartal
Re: DeNoise effect on all dialog track clips vs applying the effect in the Audio Track Mixer for that track - Premiere Pro 2019
on Jul 24, 2020 at 7:26:02 pm

Yes, that's the one.

Thanks.


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Herb Sevush
Re: DeNoise effect on all dialog track clips vs applying the effect in the Audio Track Mixer for that track - Premiere Pro 2019
on Jul 27, 2020 at 5:49:27 pm

I believe adaptive noise suppression works better in the track mixer because it's comparing the past sound to the present sound and then making adjustments. If you go clip by clip the initial moment of each clip has no previous noise print to go by and you might hear a little audio pumping at each cut.

Herb Sevush
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