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Oliver Peters
Working from home
on Mar 17, 2020 at 12:32:18 pm

FCPco offers some pointers

https://www.fcp.co/final-cut-pro/articles/2248-remote-working-learning-a-li...

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Oliver Peters
Re: Working from home
on Mar 17, 2020 at 1:12:23 pm

And this:

https://www.provideocoalition.com/talking-remote-editing-with-the-expert-mi...

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Oliver Peters
Re: Working from home
on Mar 17, 2020 at 1:13:55 pm

Another link:

https://blog.frame.io/2020/03/09/hpa-cloud-workflows/

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Oliver Peters
Re: Working from home
on Mar 17, 2020 at 2:29:51 pm
Last Edited By Oliver Peters on Mar 17, 2020 at 2:47:13 pm

Links to some actual, working remote/cloud/collaboration solutions:

Avid
https://www.avid.com/products/media-composer-cloud-remote

Blackbird
https://www.blackbird.video/

BeBop
https://beboptechnology.com/

Aframe
https://aframe.com/

Postlab
https://hedge.video/postlab
https://digitalfilms.wordpress.com/2020/03/07/a-first-look-at-postlab-cloud...

Adobe Anywhere / Team Projects
https://www.adobe.com/mt/products/adobeanywhere/faq.html
https://www.adobe.com/creativecloud/team-projects.html

Zync Render
https://www.zyncrender.com/

The Foundry (Nuke)
https://www.foundry.com/insights/cloud/working-remote-foundry-tools

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Oliver Peters
Re: Working from home
on Mar 17, 2020 at 7:51:01 pm
Last Edited By Oliver Peters on Mar 17, 2020 at 7:59:16 pm

From a link in the PVC article.

https://blog.frame.io/2020/03/16/best-practices-remote-post-production-work...

And make sure to listen to the podcast linked at the bottom of the PVC article. Michael answers must of the questions.

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Morten Carlsen
Re: Working from home
on Mar 18, 2020 at 11:24:23 am

In times like those which we're facing now it is nice to see how people, businesses and forums come together the way they do !

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Jim Curtis
Re: Working from home
on Mar 18, 2020 at 3:37:42 pm

I haven't looked at all your links, yet. I've been working from home for 25 years. I've been using email and Vimeo for client review. I have several clients in BIG companies whose firewalls won't let them use Google Drive, Hightail, DropBox, etc., but Vimeo is OK. I even have to use Vimeo to deliver masters - not my choice, since the possibility they'll download one of the lower res transcodes is a possibility.

That said, Vimeo's customer service is lacking. I feel forced into using them, and felt forced into upgrading my tier of service because Notifications are unreliable in their Plus tier. But, I looked at some other review and delivery services, and Vimeo is very competitive, price and feature-wise. It allows you to embed your videos on your web site. That's nice, too.

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Oliver Peters
Re: Working from home
on Mar 18, 2020 at 4:05:56 pm

[Jim Curtis] "That said, Vimeo's customer service is lacking. I feel forced into using them, and felt forced into upgrading my tier of service because Notifications are unreliable in their Plus tier. But, I looked at some other review and delivery services, and Vimeo is very competitive, price and feature-wise. It allows you to embed your videos on your web site. That's nice, too."

You should look at Frame.io. It's a much more professional approach.

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Oliver Peters
Re: Working from home
on Mar 18, 2020 at 4:07:30 pm

Any no sooner did I type that, than a Frame promo e-mail hit my inbox.

https://blog.frame.io/2020/03/18/frameio-covid-19-response/

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Oliver Peters
Re: Working from home
on Mar 18, 2020 at 4:17:00 pm

Another thing to look at is the Axle integration with your storage. If you have a NAS at the facility and you have Axle installed as asset management software, you can designate which files are managed by Axle. It generates its own viewing proxies.

If that system has internet access, then you can remote directly into your NAS over the internet from home or elsewhere. From there you can view and manage files, depending on permissions. This wouldn't be for remote editing, but could be useful if you want to get to your files from home.

I believe QNAP also offer similar functions through one of their own apps. That's a Bob Zelin question.

http://axle.ai/

https://www.qnap.com/en-us/

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Jim Curtis
Re: Working from home
on Mar 18, 2020 at 4:22:11 pm

[Oliver Peters] "You should look at Frame.io. It's a much more professional approach."

I agree. I researched them and Kollaborate and a few others. But, again, some choices are eliminated for me because of stringent corporate firewalls. Vimeo Pro is working fine so far.

Ironically, one of my clients, who is the biggest name in telecommunications on the planet (Is that enough of a hint?) doesn't have gigabit internet internally at their corporate HQ. You can imagine that their IT department is gargantuan, and the dungeon-masters in IT say what goes in and out and what doesn't.

Funny off-topic story. To me, anyway. I was grilled for over an hour by a security guy at this company about what I do to protect their IP. I had to keep telling him that I work only with marketing, and we WANT people to know what we're doing. The more people that know, and the more they know the better.

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Oliver Peters
Re: Working from home
on Mar 20, 2020 at 8:29:10 pm

Boiling everything down

https://www.creativeplanetnetwork.com/news/news-features/howto/workflows-fr...

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Oliver Peters
Re: Working from home
on Mar 21, 2020 at 1:45:30 am

For the Avid editors in the crowd

https://www.avid.com/remote-work

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Mark Raudonis
Re: Working from home
on Mar 21, 2020 at 11:46:37 pm

Oliver,

Great summary. Very helpful for everyone at this time.

I noticed you didn't mention: Hewlett Packard's buit in "RGS". It's getting a lot of attention here in Los Angeles, with multiple facilities deploying them in the hundreds! We just did a test drive this morning, and to quote Larry David, "It's pretty, pretty... good!"

Here's the link: https://www8.hp.com/us/en/workstations/zcentral-remote-boost.html

I'm gonna start a separate thread called, "Cupertino, we've got a problem!". It seems to me that PC based systems are way ahead of Mac's when it comes to "remote control" over a WAN.

Stay isolated. Stay healthy.

Mark



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Oliver Peters
Re: Working from home
on Mar 22, 2020 at 1:19:40 am

[Mark Raudonis] "I noticed you didn't mention: Hewlett Packard's buit in "RGS". "

I didn't really know enough about it and it's not a solution if you haven't already made that investment and have it ready. But I'm not 100% clear from the link what it does. I get how it would work within a shop, but how responsive through internet connections?

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Mark Raudonis
Re: Working from home
on Mar 22, 2020 at 3:55:36 am

[Oliver Peters] "how responsive through internet connections?"

Good enough to edit with! Might be the holy grail everyone is looking for right now.

Testing now.


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Oliver Peters
Re: Working from home
on Mar 22, 2020 at 2:58:01 pm

[Mark Raudonis] "Good enough to edit with! Might be the holy grail everyone is looking for right now."

So what are you editing? Proxy files? If you send a multicam stream to the editor, I imagine the GPU is crunching that together on the remote machine and sending a single stream back to the editor. How is that stream compressed/throttled in order to see it in realtime at full frame rate at home?

As I understand it - and again their website is very vague - you're running a virtual machine to drive the actual machine located in the plant. Honestly, I'm out of my depth, so that could be completely wrong. If you are doing this from home and not the other side of the building, what is your connection from home into the machine?

Don't you still have to have assistant editors on-prem in order to ingest files and do other media management?

How is this different than Avid's remote editing solution through Media Central or the defunct Adobe Anywhere?

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Neil Goodman
Re: Working from home
on Mar 23, 2020 at 10:18:35 pm

[Oliver Peters] "[Mark Raudonis] "I noticed you didn't mention: Hewlett Packard's buit in "RGS". "

I didn't really know enough about it and it's not a solution if you haven't already made that investment and have it ready. But I'm not 100% clear from the link what it does. I get how it would work within a shop, but how responsive through internet connections?

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im trying to use this now. my mouse keeps dissapearing - no way to use dual monitors or sound interfaces/ video put boxes. Its not a workable solution IMO.

if anyone has any tips or tricks, id love to thear them. we only have to do this becuae we finish out of house and the finishing house is requesting it.


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Morten Carlsen
Re: Working from home
on Mar 22, 2020 at 4:58:49 pm

[Mark Raudonis] "I'm gonna start a separate thread called, "Cupertino, we've got a problem!". It seems to me that PC based systems are way ahead of Mac's when it comes to "remote control" over a WAN."

Cupertino has a LOT of problems in the Pro Sector - Speed would be one where Windows blow macOS out the water. Since Apple began doing their iOS must be included in macOS-Thing... Things started to go bad for Pro Users on Mac.

With Catalina and its obvious slowness compared with even macOS Sierra I am looking more and more to the windows side of things. And I have been using Macs since 1994. I would hate to switch but if Apple doesn't do something I will !

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Santanu Bhattacharjee
Re: Working from home
on Mar 31, 2020 at 8:20:00 pm

I work with Big Banks and run into similar problems. Their systems and laptops are horribly firewalled that literally nothing works. No Drive, No Cloud, Not even Pen Drives. I feel like gifting them a PC to watch the contents I create for them. Fortunately, I could convince their IT guys to keep a spare test PC in their server room where they could walk up to see the content!

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greg janza
Re: Working from home
on Mar 23, 2020 at 10:33:49 pm
Last Edited By greg janza on Mar 23, 2020 at 10:53:28 pm

[Oliver Peters] "You should look at Frame.io. It's a much more professional approach.
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I've used both Frame.io and Vimeo extensively. While I agree Frame.io is a robust solution for client review, it's worth noting that one area where Frame.io is lacking is in total storage. Both Vimeo and Frame.io offer $20/month basic plans. Vimeo offers 1 terabyte of storage while Frame.io offers only 250 gigs. And even if you upgrade to the next level of frame.io for $50/month you will still only get 250 gigs of storage. For those that collaborate with colorists, motion graphics artists and others on projects, it's possible to use up 250 gigs very quickly.

Vimeo also has very robust analytics. So it's important to weigh whichever option serves your individual needs the best.

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Oliver Peters
Re: Working from home
on Mar 23, 2020 at 11:23:41 pm

[greg janza] "For those that collaborate with colorists, motion graphics artists and others on projects, it's possible to use up 250 gigs very quickly."

None of these services is currently at a place where the workplace or price makes any sense if you want to move a large amount of native, full-res media through them. They are R&A sites that can also function to move proxy files. Or a short ProRes, DNx master, submaster, etc. That's the biggest stumbling block right now. Someone still has to go into the office and it's easier/faster/cheaper to ship drives.

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greg janza
Re: Working from home
on Mar 23, 2020 at 11:34:06 pm

In general Oliver, I agree. I do still think people need to weigh the pros and cons of each. Both Vimeo and Frame.io are viable options and both offer very robust feature sets.

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Jim Curtis
Re: Working from home
on Mar 23, 2020 at 11:37:54 pm

HighTail has a review function. Their 1 TB storage plan is reasonably priced, IMO. They have a 25GB per transfer limit, which is higher than all the file transfer services I looked at. That's helped me work from home. I can send a link to shooters and producers, and it's a simple drag and drop to the link from their end.

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Oliver Peters
Re: Working from home
on Mar 24, 2020 at 5:27:58 pm

Frame IO is ramping up their marketing blitz on this with a series of informational tutorials. I’m not sure this applies much to the way many of us currently work; however, it’s definitely something to be aware of. His described workflow is more applicable to film studio productions. But, these and other scenarios will get increasingly bigger pushes in the foreseeable future in our business.

Here are the first two videos in a series. Intro and Ep 1.













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Mark Raudonis
Re: Working from home
on Mar 25, 2020 at 1:27:26 am

Frame iO is definitely on it!

Kudos to Michael Cioni and his team. This is very helpful information.



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Oliver Peters
Re: Working from home
on Mar 25, 2020 at 2:31:35 pm

And now Postlab for Premiere Pro users.

https://medium.hedgeformac.com/postlab-adds-premiere-pro-and-more-2f7c4aa03...

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Oliver Peters
Re: Working from home
on Mar 27, 2020 at 4:49:24 pm

This video was posted yesterday.







It's recap discussion of the HPA proof-of-concept workflow. However, I've cued it to the point where they are talking about Eclipse Technology. It's a very interesting Resolve / Frame integration.

https://www.eclipsetech.co/

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Oliver Peters
Re: Working from home
on Mar 27, 2020 at 5:17:39 pm

This process won't help everyone. If you haven't already taken these steps, it probably won't help now. But it will help you in the future.

Our media is all on a NAS for day-to-day work. However we routinely follow these steps:

1. New dailies media from a shoot is stored on the NAS.
2. The same dailies (after being organized for the project) are archived on raw drives.
3. Ongoing Premiere project files are backed up daily to DropBox (just for extra protection).
4. When done/locked/delivered the remaining elements (project file, music, grfx, etc) are added to the raw archive drive.
5. That project folder is also moved to a "backed up" folder on the NAS after the archive copy is complete. Oldest backed up folders are deleted when space is needed on the NAS.

At any given time, if needed, we can fully restore the project to the NAS from the drive. We currently have 205 drives ranging from 2TB to 8TB in capacity. Yesterday I took 14 drives home (about 78TB) with the media that we could potentially need in the near term. Although we never envisioned the archive drives to be used in a situation like this, it is totally appropriate. Hope this helps someone in the future.

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Glenn Sakatch
Re: Working from home
on Mar 27, 2020 at 10:05:18 pm

"HighTail has a review function. Their 1 TB storage plan is reasonably priced, IMO. They have a 25GB per transfer limit, which is higher than all the file transfer services I looked at."


I pay for smash instead of hightail. No transfer restriction.

Even their free version is pretty good size wise compared to others.

Glenn


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Oliver Peters
Re: Working from home
on Mar 31, 2020 at 7:28:46 pm

Part 2







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