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Jeremy Garchow
How to Decompose clips in place
on Nov 16, 2016 at 6:51:34 pm

Hello.

I use Resolve to consolidate media with handles from FCPX to send off to other applications.

Upon import it seems most clips get a compound clip treatment, they seem to be clips with filters, and clips with speed changes. For the clips with filters, I can decompose in place no problem.

Clips with speed changes will not decompose (menu item greyed out). Sometimes, I can force conform the clip from the Media Pool, and that will take care of the situation, sometimes when I try to do that, the clip on the timeline turns in to a still frame which is very odd.

I can rebuild all of the speed changes and using the original media, but that is a huge time suck, there has to be a better way.

So:

- How do I tell Resolve to not make compound clips from the FCPXML? (just to be clear, the clips are not compound clips in FCPX)

- How can I copy and paste speed changes back on to a clip? I'd like to remove the speed change in Resolve, decompose, then paste the speed changes back on. Paste Attributes doesn't seem to work.

- Is there something else or another technique I am missing?

Thanks for your time.

Jeremy


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Jeremy Garchow
Re: How to Decompose clips in place
on Nov 16, 2016 at 7:08:16 pm

By thew way, I need to decompose because Resolve will render 4k clips as 1080 if they are in a compound clip in a 1080 sequence.

If I decompose the clips, Resolve will render the clips as 4k, which is what I want.


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Michael Gissing
Re: How to Decompose clips in place
on Nov 17, 2016 at 10:47:57 am

Everything with a plugin or speed change comes in as a compound. I found I had to change the speed back to +100 noting the actual speed, then decompose then reapply the speed. Boring and manual but the only workaround I could find. I also noted that sometimes the decompose had to be slipped +1 frame.

I suspect the behaviour is in the fcpxml format. Only seen it on X projects.


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Jeremy Garchow
Re: How to Decompose clips in place
on Nov 17, 2016 at 12:52:37 pm

Thanks.

The problem is that a lot of these speed changes aren't one speed, but include several ramps or changes within one clip (footage is shot off speed and retimed for effect). The speed changes come in to Resolve flawslesly, it's quite impressive actually, but for whatever reason they come in as a 1080 compound clips instead of 4K.

So getting the speed changes back in to place is a lot of work since there's multiple changes per clip. It's a very manual process.

Am I right in that copy and past attributes does not work for speed changes?

Perhaps I'll experiment with changing to a 4K timeline on import and see what happens. Another weird thing is that the compound clips are 4K in the Media Pool. This seems like a bug.


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Michael Gissing
Re: How to Decompose clips in place
on Nov 19, 2016 at 10:23:44 pm

The ramped speed changes complicate things. I've not dealt with that scenario so I don't think copy paste attributes works if you go between the compounds in one timeline and the decompsed in the other.

If the media is 4k then they should show that in the Media even as compounds. Have you tried just changing the timeline after import to 4k? It should rescale. You can leave clips as compounds and grade them but the grade will disappear when you decompose.


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TJ Kim
Re: How to Decompose clips in place
on Nov 22, 2016 at 4:37:47 am

I grade all compound clips as it is, then render out as 1920x 1080. reimport to resolve to create compound only xml( But not with compound type). I use this xml to link original footage. This workflow is really bad and I wish I have better way.


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