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bristol cruz
Highlights RED VS Alexa VS Film
on Oct 10, 2012 at 1:14:30 pm


When working with material from Red Epic I think the highlights look very digital compared to the highlights from Alexa.
How do you deal with highlights to look more film?
Do you in most cases bring the highlights all up to 1023 IRE or do you lower them or tweek them in a way to make it look more analogue?


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Margus Voll
Re: Highlights RED VS Alexa VS Film
on Oct 10, 2012 at 4:36:37 pm

What do you mean by digital ?

I think it depends a bit also how material is filmed?

If white is crushed or not.



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Chris Martin
Re: Highlights RED VS Alexa VS Film
on Oct 15, 2012 at 6:29:51 am

Unless RED is capturing HDR (which has it's own downsides), it is not capturing as much latitude in the hilights as Alexa.

You can twirl every knob and hit every button in Resolve but you can't create additional hilight range. I sometimes take the easy out and make a soft luma key and add a slight promist to it but it gets very 80's video pretty quickly.

The folks at Arri, being rooted in film, strove to make a digital cinema camera that responded like film. RED has some great qualities of it's own. but holding hilights is not at the top of the list.

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Robert Ruffo
Re: Highlights RED VS Alexa VS Film
on Oct 22, 2012 at 8:47:22 pm

This is nonsense.

Does The Great Gatsby or Spiderman - or even Lincoln Lawyer - not look "film like" enough? Your problem is your Epic DP is incompetent. It is very easy to great wonderful images from an Epic.

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Guillem Ventura
Re: Highlights RED VS Alexa VS Film
on Oct 24, 2012 at 5:18:22 pm

I love the Epic, but for outdoors it can get tricky.
Soft clipping may help to gain some "roundness" on the peaks of the waveform.
I also lower the whites below 1023, leaving the brightest only for "superwhites" such as speculars or lights straight to camera...
Desaturating or tinting the highlights a bit may help too, when clipped they can exhibit weird hues.

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