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Roger Bansemer
Youtube Rendering with Vegas 17
on Jan 15, 2020 at 6:41:37 pm

I just rendered a half hour video (Internet HD 1080p 59.94fps) using the Magix AVC/AAC MP4 format and it was over 5 gigs.
I never remember rendering with Vegas 14 ever having such a large file.
So.... what is the most practical rendering format I should use for YouTube?
Thanks
Roger

Roger Bansemer - PaintingAndTravel.com


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Steve Rhoden
Re: Youtube Rendering with Vegas 17
on Jan 15, 2020 at 7:19:26 pm

Have you heard about Voukoder?
It's a miracle worker and is all that i now use....
https://www.voukoder.org/

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Owner of Filmex Creative Media.
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Francois Pénzes
Re: Youtube Rendering with Vegas 17
on Jan 16, 2020 at 11:35:35 am

Hi Steve

Tried Voukoder as per your suggestion to Roger B.. I tested it on my other computer that has V12. I do this so not to take any risks with my ''bread and butter'' computer that has V16.

Did some testing and a soon as I try to open the Render As window, everything crashes.

I couldn't find much of a tutorial (unless one understands Russian) or any other info.

Do you know if there is a resource site short of the forum ?

Cheers !

PC Win 10 Pro 64-bit 16gb
Ryzen 9 3900X 12 Core 4.60GHz
Radeon RX 5700 XT
Cameras: Canon XF305 + Canon XH-A1
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Roger Bansemer
Re: Youtube Rendering with Vegas 17
on Jan 16, 2020 at 2:38:32 pm
Last Edited By Roger Bansemer on Jan 16, 2020 at 2:42:54 pm

Hi Steve,
I installed Voukoder but I get this message when I open vegas. So I don't know what I'm suppose to do next. The file I downloaded and installed was called "vegas-connector-0.5.1.msi. I didn't see any other files available to download on the Voukoder site so I'm baffled.



Also when I do get it working, where does do these render choices appear? I'm assuming they are included within the normal Vegas rendering choices. Is that correct?
Thanks Steve,
Roger

Roger Bansemer - PaintingAndTravel.com


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Steve Rhoden
Re: Youtube Rendering with Vegas 17
on Jan 16, 2020 at 2:49:46 pm

You got that warning because you need to install two components, the connector and the core component:
https://github.com/Vouk/voukoder/releases/download/3/voukoder-3.msi
https://github.com/Vouk/voukoder-connectors/raw/master/vegas/vegas-connecto...

When you do this, it will appear in the list of your rendering output, where you can configure to your hearts content and all is good and stable!

Steve Rhoden (Cow Leader)
Film Maker & VFX Artist.
Owner of Filmex Creative Media.
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Roger Bansemer
Re: Youtube Rendering with Vegas 17
on Jan 17, 2020 at 4:36:48 pm

Hi Steve,
Thanks for the advice. Got Voukodor working fine now.
Roger

Roger Bansemer - PaintingAndTravel.com


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Steve Rhoden
Re: Youtube Rendering with Vegas 17
on Jan 17, 2020 at 5:01:02 pm

Glad to hear Roger!.....

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Daniel Barraclough
Re: Youtube Rendering with Vegas 17
on Jan 16, 2020 at 1:12:38 pm

I have been successful with H.264 & H.265 via using Handbrake.
Remarkably small files produced with no noticeable loss of detail.
Upload to Youtube naturally much faster.
To use Handbrake via Vegas:
https://www.moviestudiozen.com/free-tutorials/sony-vegas-pro/590-render-vid...

Daniel, UK


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Steve Rhoden
Re: Youtube Rendering with Vegas 17
on Jan 16, 2020 at 1:52:28 pm

Voukoder is miles ahead of Handbrake in terms of output quality, file size, ease of use and integration!

Francois, yes you probably would have issues using it in Vegas 12, as it is made for earlier versions, but especially for Magix Vegas Pro 17... So try it in your Vegas Pro 16, you have nothing to worry about installing and testing it.

Steve Rhoden (Cow Leader)
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Owner of Filmex Creative Media.
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Francois Pénzes
Re: Youtube Rendering with Vegas 17
on Jan 16, 2020 at 11:13:57 pm

Thank you Steve ! Will try it out.

Cheers !

PC Win 10 Pro 64-bit 16gb
Ryzen 9 3900X 12 Core 4.60GHz
Radeon RX 5700 XT
Cameras: Canon XF305 + Canon XH-A1
Vegas Pro 16, User since Vegas 3.0

''When the cutting stops, the editing begins...''


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Roger Bansemer
Re: Youtube Rendering with Vegas 17
on Jan 18, 2020 at 2:58:10 pm

It cut my file size by less than half.
Thanks again for letting us know about it.
Roger

Roger Bansemer - PaintingAndTravel.com


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Steve Rhoden
Re: Youtube Rendering with Vegas 17
on Jan 20, 2020 at 11:54:12 am

Yes Roger, and it's output is a far better quality than that of Vegas....

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G Randy Brown
Re: Youtube Rendering with Vegas 17
on Jan 20, 2020 at 7:18:26 pm

Hi Steve, thanks very much for this.
I have been struggling with renders from a new camera I bought.
I just rendered a 1 minute test clip using Voukoder and was please to find it only took 1min 45sec as opposed to 2.5 min and the quality looks very good.
That said, I only see "use project settings"...is that all of the templates I should see?
Thanks again,
Randy

Vegas Pro 17
i7-3770 3.10ghz 4 core
32 GB RAM


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Francois Pénzes
Re: Youtube Rendering with Vegas 17
on Jan 20, 2020 at 8:04:46 pm

Hi Roger

If I may, after you've selected Voukoder , Highlight Use Project Settings then Customize Template will be made available. Select Open Voukoder dialog... and choose your settings.



Steve was right. I've cut my render time by a factor of 3.

Thanks again Steve R.

Cheers !

PC Win 10 Pro 64-bit 16gb
Ryzen 9 3900X 12 Core 4.60GHz
Radeon RX 5700 XT
Cameras: Canon XF305 + Canon XH-A1
Vegas Pro 16, User since Vegas 3.0

''When the cutting stops, the editing begins...''


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G Randy Brown
Re: Youtube Rendering with Vegas 17
on Jan 20, 2020 at 10:01:28 pm

Thank you Francois...I will most likely always use the MP4 container but I'm not sure about the codec.
It defaulted to x264 but wondering if I should try something else.
I ask because I'm seeing around 2 X real time as far as renders when testing anything more than 5 minute.
I used to render 1080p at about 3/4 real time before I got this new camera.
To try to narrow the problem down I just shot/rendered some footage with the old camera and it takes about 2X real time now too.
Also, after rendering the 1min test I went back to the timeline and hit play and keep getting an error stating "an error occurred while starting playback. The request is not enabled for this device" so I'm not sure what's going on..should I start a separate thread on that issue or does anyone have a suggestion?
Thanks again,
Randy

Vegas Pro 17
i7-3770 3.10ghz 4 core
32 GB RAM


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Francois Pénzes
Re: Youtube Rendering with Vegas 17
on Jan 20, 2020 at 11:49:47 pm

Hi Randy (sorry about calling you Robert previously)

One can not expect to get the same results as someone else. There are to many variables such as differences in hardware, files types, plug-in usage, etc... Best is to start testing by always using the same source file, tring all of the different options and then making your choice according to preferred results. As with any other software, there is a learning curve and taming of the beast.

Cheers !

PC Win 10 Pro 64-bit 16gb
Ryzen 9 3900X 12 Core 4.60GHz
Radeon RX 5700 XT
Cameras: Canon XF305 + Canon XH-A1
Vegas Pro 16, User since Vegas 3.0

''When the cutting stops, the editing begins...''


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G Randy Brown
Re: Youtube Rendering with Vegas 17
on Jan 21, 2020 at 12:20:28 am

Thanks, I will use the same source file moving forward...I certainly don't need yet another variable : )
I definitely want to eventually find out why my old camera renders twice as slow as it did a week ago though!
Thanks again,
Randy

Vegas Pro 17
i7-3770 3.10ghz 4 core
32 GB RAM


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