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Randy Brown
Pro 17 can't open a Pro 12 template project?
on Jan 13, 2020 at 5:21:12 pm
Last Edited By Randy Brown on Jan 13, 2020 at 5:21:52 pm

I can understand why 12 wouldn't be able to open a 17 project but not the opposite.
I have a template I created years ago in 12 (lower 3rds) opening graphics, music, etc.
I use it to import a weekly church service.
I tried to open in 17 and it complained it couldn't find the files so I showed it the first one thinking Vegas would state it found the rest of the files in that folder and ask if would I like to use them (as Vegas has been capable of doing for years).
Instead it complained it couldn't find the next one (out of like 20) and I had to show it every single file.
Finally I got through all of them and Vegas stated it couldn't open the project because the files are incompatible.
These are mostly .mov files...can someone tell me what the heck is going on?

Vegas Pro 17
i7-3770 3.10ghz 4 core
32 GB RAM


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Francois Pénzes
Re: Pro 17 can't open a Pro 12 template project?
on Jan 13, 2020 at 6:55:30 pm

Hi Randy

Do you have Quicktime installed on your computer ?

Cheers !

PC Win 10 Pro 64-bit 16gb
Ryzen 9 3900X 12 Core 4.60GHz
Radeon RX 5700 XT
Cameras: Canon XF305 + Canon XH-A1
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Randy Brown
Re: Pro 17 can't open a Pro 12 template project?
on Jan 13, 2020 at 7:28:01 pm

Yes, like I say they open fine in 12.
Thanks,
Randy

Vegas Pro 17
i7-3770 3.10ghz 4 core
32 GB RAM


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Francois Pénzes
Re: Pro 17 can't open a Pro 12 template project?
on Jan 13, 2020 at 8:47:34 pm

Hi Randy

Had to ask 'cause I also run Vegas 12 but on an other computer. Do you get the same message from V17 for other types of files or only with .MOV files ?

Just trying to eliminate the obvious possibilities before I tell you to wipe V17 from your computer, then run a program like CCleaner to (sorta) clean the registry and then re-install. Sometimes it does do the trick.

Cheers !

PC Win 10 Pro 64-bit 16gb
Ryzen 9 3900X 12 Core 4.60GHz
Radeon RX 5700 XT
Cameras: Canon XF305 + Canon XH-A1
Vegas Pro 16, User since Vegas 3.0

''When the cutting stops, the editing begins...''


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Bill Burnette
Re: Pro 17 can't open a Pro 12 template project?
on Jan 13, 2020 at 9:17:42 pm

Hi Randy,

(Quote from Magix Vegas Pro forum:)
From another thread:

It is very possible that these files require QuickTime to load. The QuickTime plugin in VEGAS Pro 17 has been turned off as QuickTime is no longer supported on Windows. You may, however, reactivate the QuickTime plugin by going to Preferences and selecting the "Deprecated" tab. From there you can turn on the QuickTime plugin if you still need it.


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Randy Brown
Re: Pro 17 can't open a Pro 12 template project?
on Jan 14, 2020 at 6:09:51 pm

My daughter missed her flight so I was able to go ahead and try this super easy suggestion and it now has no issue with mov files...thank you guys very much!

Vegas Pro 17
i7-3770 3.10ghz 4 core
32 GB RAM


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Randy Brown
Re: Pro 17 can't open a Pro 12 template project?
on Jan 13, 2020 at 11:38:38 pm

I just re-opened the project and it appears it is only the mov files it won't load.
Also I tried to drag mov files onto a blank timeline and that doesn't work either.
Thanks,
Randy

Vegas Pro 17
i7-3770 3.10ghz 4 core
32 GB RAM


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Francois Pénzes
Re: Pro 17 can't open a Pro 12 template project?
on Jan 14, 2020 at 1:11:27 am

Hi Randy

Everything seems to point towards a problem with Quicktime. Now, this is just a educated guess on my part but I suspect that your problem lies with the introduction of the codec for ProRes in V14. In prior versions, you needed to download Apple QuickTime in order to import and create ProRes files. There would seem to be a conflict between the 2 codecs.

Maybe if you uninstall Quicktime it may work... Let us know what happens.

Cheers !

PC Win 10 Pro 64-bit 16gb
Ryzen 9 3900X 12 Core 4.60GHz
Radeon RX 5700 XT
Cameras: Canon XF305 + Canon XH-A1
Vegas Pro 16, User since Vegas 3.0

''When the cutting stops, the editing begins...''


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Randy Brown
Re: Pro 17 can't open a Pro 12 template project?
on Jan 14, 2020 at 1:59:33 am

Maybe if you uninstall Quicktime it may work... Let us know what happens.
Do you mean uninstall and reinstall or just uninstall?
Thanks very much,
Randy

Vegas Pro 17
i7-3770 3.10ghz 4 core
32 GB RAM


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Francois Pénzes
Re: Pro 17 can't open a Pro 12 template project?
on Jan 14, 2020 at 2:15:44 am

Hi Randy

Uninstall only. This so we can see if there is a conflict between the 2 codecs.

Cheers !

PC Win 10 Pro 64-bit 16gb
Ryzen 9 3900X 12 Core 4.60GHz
Radeon RX 5700 XT
Cameras: Canon XF305 + Canon XH-A1
Vegas Pro 16, User since Vegas 3.0

''When the cutting stops, the editing begins...''


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Randy Brown
Re: Pro 17 can't open a Pro 12 template project?
on Jan 14, 2020 at 2:41:53 am

Thanks so much, I will do that and report back within a couple of days (grandkids and daughter flying in tomorrow).
That said, I think you've discovered the issue as I pulled out the new GPU earlier and put the old one back in (trying to resolve my render time issue in another thread) and got the same error.
Thanks again,
Randy

Vegas Pro 17
i7-3770 3.10ghz 4 core
32 GB RAM


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Steve Rhoden
Re: Pro 17 can't open a Pro 12 template project?
on Jan 14, 2020 at 1:08:06 pm

Did you follow Bill Burnette advice by going to Preferences and selecting the "Deprecated" tab. From there you can turn on the QuickTime plugin?
That should be what is causing some issue.

Steve Rhoden (Cow Leader)
Film Maker & VFX Artist.
Owner of Filmex Creative Media.
Samples of my Work and Company can be seen here:
http://www.facebook.com/FilmexCreativeMedia


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Randy Brown
Re: Pro 17 can't open a Pro 12 template project?
on Jan 14, 2020 at 2:30:42 pm

Hmm, some how I didn't even see his post...I will try that and get back.
Thanks very much all,
Randy

Vegas Pro 17
i7-3770 3.10ghz 4 core
32 GB RAM


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Randy Brown
Re: Pro 17 can't open a Pro 12 template project?
on Jan 14, 2020 at 2:53:59 pm

Quick question- could the installation of 17 turn off Quik time on 12 also?
I ask because in later testing I noticed the issue was happening with 12 also now.
A BH Photo computer tech and I deduced it to the new GPU I just installed and last night I requested an RMA and put the old card back in so I'll need to put the new card back in to test Bill's suggestion. As I mentioned earlier my grandkids are flying in today so it might be a day or 2 before I can try it but I sure hope he's right...it would make things much easier!
Thanks again,
Randy

Vegas Pro 17
i7-3770 3.10ghz 4 core
32 GB RAM


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Steve Rhoden
Re: Pro 17 can't open a Pro 12 template project?
on Jan 14, 2020 at 3:20:52 pm

No need for any confusion, when you are done with everything, simply reinstall the last
version of Quicktime and follow the instruction to activate the quicktime plugin in Vegas
in the Deprecated tab of Preferences. You should be ok.

Steve Rhoden (Cow Leader)
Film Maker & VFX Artist.
Owner of Filmex Creative Media.
Samples of my Work and Company can be seen here:
http://www.facebook.com/FilmexCreativeMedia


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G Randy Brown
Re: Pro 17 can't open a Pro 12 template project?
on Jan 14, 2020 at 6:16:53 pm

I had time to try this simple suggestion and all is well with mov files now...thanks very much for everyone's help!
Randy

Vegas Pro 17
i7-3770 3.10ghz 4 core
32 GB RAM


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Steve Rhoden
Re: Pro 17 can't open a Pro 12 template project?
on Jan 14, 2020 at 7:13:23 pm

Great!....

Steve Rhoden (Cow Leader)
Film Maker & VFX Artist.
Owner of Filmex Creative Media.
Samples of my Work and Company can be seen here:
http://www.facebook.com/FilmexCreativeMedia


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