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Rina Sherman
how to handle a large number of high quality stills on timeline
on Dec 7, 2019 at 1:38:25 pm

Hi,
I'm making a film using a large number of photographs over voice and I need these images to be of a resolution that will work on the big screen, as well as in exhibition type situations. The images are mainly graphics and old photographs and both, especially the graphics need to be of a very high quality on big and computer screens.


I find my timeline is slowing down to an unworkable speed.
It seems I should be using png format to avoid this, since in Vegas Pro jpg or tiff formats require quicktime to be opened.

My video image is 4k filmed with a GH5, editing with proxies.

What is the best way to do this?

Thank you in advance,

Best regards,

Rina Sherman
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Francois Pénzes
Re: how to handle a large number of high quality stills on timeline
on Dec 8, 2019 at 3:44:38 pm

Hi Rena

Just so I get this right, you are using frames captured from video of still pictures taken with a GH5. Right ?

Jpeg is a lossy format as opposed to .PNG which is lossless. The other advantage is that you can have a .PNG with transparency, not .JPEG. Granted, the .PNG file of the same picture will be bigger than a .JPEG. That's the drawback. But who cares, you want your clip to look as good as possible !

Your best bet is to use a good quality scanner, scan at highest DPI and save to .PNG. The DPI is just so you start off with the best possible quality picture. Frame size is the thing to remember. Try to have the biggest possible size of pictures to start with. If you have to zoom in or make it fit your projects frame size, you're better off quality wise to avoid having to make your pics bigger to fit.

If you have to use what you have already on video, make sure that when you make your .PNG with Save Snapshot To File... the Preview Quality is at Best (Full)

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Rina Sherman
Re: how to handle a large number of high quality stills on timeline
on Dec 8, 2019 at 4:02:24 pm

Hi,
My files come from a variety of sources, but 99% are either scanned in high resolution (large files) by me on a v 750pro or filmed by me with a GH5 (highest quality). I'm familiar with lossy jpg and lossless png.

My question is, is there a way to ensure HD quality for various destinations (big screen, exposition situation on computer screen of various sizes) without my timeline crunching to an almost dead halt?

Thank you very much,

Rina Sherman
http://www.rinasherman.com

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Wayne Waag
Re: how to handle a large number of high quality stills on timeline
on Dec 8, 2019 at 8:39:23 pm

Hi Rina,

What you probably need to do is create your own low-resolution proxies for all of your still images. If all of your images are in the same folder or can be moved to a common folder, then it's pretty easy. Simply make a copy of the folder and batch process the image files of your copy to make the low resolution images. Then batch replace your still images in your Vegas project with the low res proxies to do your editing. When editing is complete, then replace the proxy files with the original high-resolution images.

There is a fairly long thread about this issue on the Vegas Pro Forum at https://www.vegascreativesoftware.info/us/forum/proxy-for-still-images--117...

Another option, mentioned in the thread, would be to use the ProxyAssist tool in Happy Otter Scripts which can be found here. https://tools4vegas.com/
In addition to proxy creation for video images, there is also an option for still images. Here is a screen grab.



HOS is still in beta at least through mid-January. If you want to try it, I'd suggest waiting until the next build 1.0.2.66 will be released later today or tomorrow.

wwaag


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Rina Sherman
Re: how to handle a large number of high quality stills on timeline
on Dec 8, 2019 at 9:55:13 pm

Hi Wayne,
Thank you, batch reduce into folder and then changing folder's name with HD images is probably going to be best.

The proxy assist on Otter site does not show stills possibility.
Thank you for the indication to the thread, there's a great deal to learn there.

Best regards,

Rina

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Wayne Waag
Re: how to handle a large number of high quality stills on timeline
on Dec 8, 2019 at 10:06:23 pm

Sounds like an easy way forward to me as well.

"The proxy assist on Otter site does not show stills possibility."

Sadly, the website is really out of date. That was the reason for the screen shot. Creating proxies for stills was introduced roughly 4 builds ago back in July. This option was added at the request one of the beta testers.

wwaag


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Aleksey Tarasov
Re: how to handle a large number of high quality stills on timeline
on Dec 9, 2019 at 6:18:51 am

Ultimately, your hi-res images will be rendered and resized to the video's frame size, right? So, what's the point to work with "heavy" high resolution images? If you do not use them in Pan/Crop (showing a part of an image), reduce their size to 4K or slightly above. Use offline tools (eg. IrfanView, XnView, Photoshop) or online (eg. this one)


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Rina Sherman
Re: how to handle a large number of high quality stills on timeline
on Dec 9, 2019 at 12:19:02 pm

Thank you to all,
Images being 4k size makes sense, and I will batch reduce online or on one of the softs mentioned.

Best regards,

Rina
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