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Rob Lindsay
working with Prores and DNxHD
on Jul 1, 2019 at 10:22:05 pm

I'm confused. So I came here :). Running V13, I am wondering if it can ingest and edit Prores and DNx if I ever want to use a Red or comp camera. And is there an advantage to using those codecs, and if I dont want to use them, can I still edit files from those cameras in Veg13?

Thanks!

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George Dean
Re: working with Prores and DNxHD
on Jul 2, 2019 at 12:08:07 am

Hi Rob,

You will need to load Apple Quicktime (best version would be 7.7.6). Keep in mind ProRes and DNxHD are 4:2:2 10 bit, and to retain the 10 bit for processing you will need to work in 32-bit floating point rather than 8 bit. You can not render out ProRes, but can read and render DNxHD after you have installed the Avid codec. DNxHD 10 bit codec should provide a rendered file in 10 bit (provided you are processing in 32-bit floating point).

Hope this helps....

Best Regards......George


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Rob Lindsay
Re: working with Prores and DNxHD
on Jul 2, 2019 at 1:17:32 am

Are you saying that both Avid and Prores depend on an ancient QT file to work on any platform?

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George Dean
Re: working with Prores and DNxHD
on Jul 2, 2019 at 1:18:23 pm

Hi Rob,

No, I'm saying that the ancient version of Vegas Pro 13 needs a 32 bit discontinued program to work with ProRes or DNx. Vegas Pro 15/16 will work with ProRes, but even it needs Quicktime for DNx. You could use Premiere or Resolve to natively work with ProRes and DNx.

Best Regards......George


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Rob Lindsay
Re: working with Prores and DNxHD
on Jul 2, 2019 at 4:36:40 pm

Thank you, George -- I've been avoiding Premeire but so many clients ask for project files init that maybe it's time I jumped in.

Much appreciated!

Rob

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George Dean
Re: working with Prores and DNxHD
on Jul 2, 2019 at 5:11:06 pm

Hi Rob,

Although Magix has improved Vegas Pro since they purchased it, they are still doing catchup with both stability and features attempting to get it capable with other mainstream NLE's. I doubt they will ever top out Final Cut Pro Premiere or Resolve.

I switched from Vegs Pro to Resolve 15 Studio last year and other than helping others with VP from time to time (because I used it for so many years), I have never looked back for my production projects. Resolve 15, no doubt has the best color correction and grading capability of all the NLE's and with v15 the editing and FX capability is really improved enough for me that I have no need for all the other programs I had to use with Vegas. Resolve 16 even jumps further with improved Fusion, audio and Fx's, although v16 is still in beta and hopefully the production release will be in the next few months.

Depending on how complex your workflow and the feature set you need, will depend on which NLE will work best for you. I don't have a need to work with any other companies, but if you have other clients who are using something like Premiere, it does present an issue when trading/passing on projects.

I have read many times from users who started with Vegas, progressed their editing talents to the point they developed paying clients, but are constantly beating against a wall with other production houses which have never accepted Vegas as a professional tool. If I were in it for the money (I'm retired now) I would switch in a heart beat, embrace the learning curve and get the monkey of poor acceptance off my back.

You may be right, it may be time for you to make the switch. Good Luck with your decision and future editing.

Best Regards......George


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Steve Rhoden
Re: working with Prores and DNxHD
on Jul 8, 2019 at 12:20:25 pm

No need to jump any ship, but that's just me.... And for what great need would a client need your project files, that is never a good sign..... (Long story)

Steve Rhoden (Cow Leader)
Film Maker & VFX Artist.
Owner of Filmex Creative Media.
Samples of my Work and Company can be seen here:
http://www.facebook.com/FilmexCreativeMedia


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Jeff Lee
Re: working with Prores and DNxHD
on Jul 2, 2019 at 10:02:53 pm
Last Edited By Jeff Lee on Jul 2, 2019 at 11:13:46 pm

Lindsay:

Magix VegasPRO 16 uses the Magix Intermediate codec (which is PRORES), no additional stuff is needed. It is very easy to customize in HQ, 422, and XQ formats.

DnxHD would have to be added.


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