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Rex Polanis
Animating 3d Text Overlap
on Aug 27, 2014 at 2:10:26 am

Can anyone help me with this.

I am working on a animation and I want my text characters animation to overlap rather than one after another. For example, I want the letter R to start moving into place while the letter D is half way through it's animation.

I've have tried using the easy low and high settings to no avail, and I've tried using the ramp up and ramp down which gets me close, but with those settings the animation doesn't complete no matter where I place the final key frame. It appears as if characters come to rest in a in ramp or slant, i.e: the D is higher than the R which is higher than the A and so on until you get to the final C which is barely sticking out from the wall.
Thanks for your help.

Here is a link to what I've created so far for reference.

https://vimeo.com/104313373

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Filip Vandueren
Re: Animating 3d Text Overlap
on Aug 27, 2014 at 11:19:06 pm

Looks to me like you're only using the "square" selector. Try using "ramp up" or "ramp down",
and a world of possibilities will open for you :-)



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Rex Polanis
Re: Animating 3d Text Overlap
on Aug 27, 2014 at 11:26:26 pm

I am using square and I've tried ramp up and ramp down, but that's where I am having trouble. When I've tried ramp up and ramp down the animation doesn't complete the cycle. It doesn't end at 100%. NO matter where I place the final key frame, the animation ends with the letters not all at the same Z position.

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Filip Vandueren
Re: Animating 3d Text Overlap
on Aug 27, 2014 at 11:30:24 pm

When you use Ramp up or Down, you should keyframe the Offset parameter, not the start and end percentages.



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Rex Polanis
Re: Animating 3d Text Overlap
on Aug 27, 2014 at 11:40:27 pm

I've done that too, with the same result. I'll upload some screen shots of my settings tomorrow when I get back to the office. I'm sure I'm missing something.

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Filip Vandueren
Re: Animating 3d Text Overlap
on Aug 27, 2014 at 11:49:43 pm
Last Edited By Filip Vandueren on Aug 28, 2014 at 12:26:29 am

It really isn't explained very well in the manuals I find…

example:

"THIS IS LONG TEXT"

say I want to apply an effect (Z-position in your case ?) on that text,
but I want it to spread out over about 4 characters:
The text is 17 characters long I think, so let's say that's 25% of the text-layer.

Create a Text animator (per character 3D enabled)
- Push Z position forward as you want the end result to be

Go into Animator -> Range Selector -> Advanced
- Set Shape to "Ramp Down"
- Keep Range start at 0%
- Set Range End to 25%

Immediately you should see a ramp: The first letter T should be all the way pushed out, while the subsequent letters H, I, S are gradually less pushed out, the rest of the string is at it's original position.

Now if you set offset to -25 -> everything is at its original position.
Set offset at 100% -> everything should be at its final position (affected by your animator's Z-position push)

Just animate the offset from -25 to 100% over time and you get a left to right sweep of your effect. With the effect from start to finish.
Adjust Ease High and Low to change the animation per character of moving form 0% to 100% affected from a linear animation to an eased animation…



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Rex Polanis
Re: Animating 3d Text Overlap
on Aug 28, 2014 at 2:00:39 pm

Wow! That did the trick! Thank you so much for your help. I really appreciate it. I've been trying to figure this out for almost a week now. I'll post the final result in a day or so, once it renders.

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Rex Polanis
Re: Animating 3d Text Overlap
on Sep 1, 2014 at 11:41:58 pm

Ok, so now the render is taking over 120 hours to complete?

The last time I rendered the project it only took about 3 hours. The only setting that's changed since then is the ramp down setting?

Do you have any suggestions? Thanks

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Filip Vandueren
Re: Animating 3d Text Overlap
on Sep 1, 2014 at 11:52:32 pm

Are you rendering on a Mac laptop? They can be very fidhety about sometimes rendering 3D with, but often Without hardware acceleration.
Restart your computer and only start up After Effects and try to render again.
(You can check in the preferences if the hardware acceleration is active)
Without GPU, after effects 3D ray tracing is hopelessly slow.
That's the only explanation I have



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Rex Polanis
Re: Animating 3d Text Overlap
on Sep 2, 2014 at 1:57:23 am

I have a Windows 7 PC, Ae CC 2014, with GPU hardware accelerator turned on in Ae and Media Encoder. It's strange that what once took 3 hours now takes 120? I'll keep playing with.

Thanks so much the help though. I really appreciate it.

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Filip Vandueren
Re: Animating 3d Text Overlap
on Sep 2, 2014 at 7:17:24 am

I wonder, if you disable the extrusion depth (just as a test) or maybe even use the classic 3D engine,
Would the two different types of animation also have a different rendering time? It would be just minutes instead of hours, and you can't use the results, but I'm just curious...



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Rex Polanis
Re: Animating 3d Text Overlap
on Sep 6, 2014 at 6:51:15 pm

I finally got it to work. I broke up the project by camera angle and rendered each individual camera angle as it's own comp and then combined the rendered files in one comp.

I just updated the file on vimeo, same link new video. Thanks again for all your help. I am glad there that creative cow exits and that there are people like you wiling to help.

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