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Dmitri Medvedev
smoothly fading in text with layer effects, what's this pop-in problem?
on Nov 2, 2010 at 11:36:12 pm

Hopefully this isn't a stupid question.

When using an animator to fade in text that has a bevel or inner glow I see these layer effects "pop" in after a certain amount of opacity. I'm guessing this is due to the animator's opacity affecting only the text and the layer effects are applied to that opacity. So, when the opacity is low, the effects are applied differently than to fully visible text.

Is there a way to use the animator fade in and preserve the layer effect appearance? (In photoshop terms, affect the layer's opacity, not fill)

Thanks,


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Dave LaRonde
Re: smoothly fading in text with layer effects, what's this pop-in problem?
on Nov 2, 2010 at 11:45:55 pm

You could duplicate the text layer, remove the layer effects, animate the fade on it and use it as a track matte for the text with layer effects intact.

Dave LaRonde
Sr. Promotion Producer
KCRG-TV (ABC) Cedar Rapids, IA


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Dmitri Medvedev
Re: smoothly fading in text with layer effects, what's this pop-in problem?
on Nov 3, 2010 at 12:04:06 am

Tried it. I thought that would work but it still applies the effects incorrectly. (I have an inner glow, dark multiply, white text fades in black, then pops to white)


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Dave LaRonde
Re: smoothly fading in text with layer effects, what's this pop-in problem?
on Nov 3, 2010 at 12:09:08 am

Now, you DID remove the layer effects from the track matte, right? That's crucial.

If you did, I think you may have bumped into one of those Photoshoppy-like things in AE that just doesn't work well under all circumstances.

Dave LaRonde
Sr. Promotion Producer
KCRG-TV (ABC) Cedar Rapids, IA


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Dmitri Medvedev
Re: smoothly fading in text with layer effects, what's this pop-in problem?
on Nov 3, 2010 at 12:11:43 am

yep! I'll just have to find another workaround. Thanks for you help though!


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Dave LaRonde
Re: smoothly fading in text with layer effects, what's this pop-in problem?
on Nov 3, 2010 at 12:20:35 am

Here's one: have you thought about prerendering the text and useing the track matte trick on it?

Back in Days of Yore when a hot computer for AE work had a single 256 mHz processor and 512 MB RAM, you had to prerender a LOT... but the job got done.

Dave LaRonde
Sr. Promotion Producer
KCRG-TV (ABC) Cedar Rapids, IA


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Dmitri Medvedev
Re: smoothly fading in text with layer effects, what's this pop-in problem?
on Nov 3, 2010 at 12:29:58 am

Indeed, there's always the prerender option. I was inquiring if there was a toggle I was missing to save time on future projects.

I just removed the offending inner glow and tweaked the other effects to achieve a close-enough simile. I just would have liked an option to "bake-on" layer effects or to affect the opacity, not the fill.


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Michael Szalapski
Re: smoothly fading in text with layer effects, what's this pop-in problem?
on Nov 3, 2010 at 2:53:00 pm

Could you not precompose your text with its layer styles and then fade the precomp?

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Dave LaRonde
Re: smoothly fading in text with layer effects, what's this pop-in problem?
on Nov 3, 2010 at 3:07:23 pm

Yeah, that oughta work. I forgot about that one!

Dave LaRonde
Sr. Promotion Producer
KCRG-TV (ABC) Cedar Rapids, IA


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