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Jason McKee
possible to key through a rainy window?
on Sep 16, 2010 at 3:13:59 am

i am about to start a shoot that requires a lot of interior driving shots with rain hitting the windows. the actors will be in the foreground. the entire shoot will be done on a stage with a green screen outside the windows. would it be better to leave the car dry and add elements of rain hitting the glass (sounds tough) or just have a sprinkler on the car continuously wetting the car down. i'd rather have the car wet. i just need to know that it will look good using keylight in after effects. im good with keylight ive just never keyed through moving water. thanks in advance.
-jm


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mathew fuller
Re: possible to key through a rainy window?
on Sep 16, 2010 at 4:30:05 am

yes you can key through water... but to tell you it would work right without being there on set.. impossible... that's why people hire VFX supervisors... such as myself ;)


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Tudor "Ted" Jelescu
Re: possible to key through a rainy window?
on Sep 16, 2010 at 6:50:11 am

Shoot without water and with water to be safe. If your camera is locked, shoot the same angle without actors and just the "rain" and then shoot the actors without rain. This way you will have a lot more control over the shot in compositing.

Tudor "Ted" Jelescu
Senior Compositor/VFX Artist
Bucharest, Romania


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Dave LaRonde
Re: possible to key through a rainy window?
on Sep 16, 2010 at 2:37:30 pm

I, for one, don't know if you can do what you want. I kind of doubt it. To remove that doubt, I would have run a test.

My concern: if you key out the rain drops, they disappear, right? So you won't get the tiny refractions that really sell the shot as real, and don't scream, "Effects Shot!"

So what you're REALLY asking is, "How can I place raindrops on a car windshield in post?".... and I don't have a good answer to that one.

Dave LaRonde
Sr. Promotion Producer
KCRG-TV (ABC) Cedar Rapids, IA


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Michael Szalapski
Re: possible to key through a rainy window?
on Sep 16, 2010 at 6:13:49 pm

Raindrop tutorial here.

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