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Ted Mihu
Time to upgrade?
on Feb 24, 2015 at 10:03:35 pm

Hello,

For about 8 years I've been working as an After Effects compositor and I'm pretty happy with the software. I mean I know Nuke and other compositors have their uses, but I haven't really hit a wall yet in my work. I've recently downloaded some presets from Red Giant and I'm starting to question whether I need to do particle simulation in some other software.

Basically the presets are a combination of Trapcode Form and Trapcode particular, and they are multiple iterations of the effect to create some pretty beautiful 3D animated strokes with dots and lines in various settings. ANd then there's ones that are like powders disintegrating.
A few examples:
http://people.redgiant.com/Explore/PresetDetail.aspx?PresetId=1848
http://people.redgiant.com/Explore/PresetDetail.aspx?PresetId=787
http://people.redgiant.com/Explore/PresetDetail.aspx?PresetId=1653
http://people.redgiant.com/Explore/PresetDetail.aspx?PresetId=1944
http://people.redgiant.com/Explore/PresetDetail.aspx?PresetId=1640

Now I know that the Magic Bullet suite is mostly the kid version of a professional coloring suite, but are the simulation plugins also as inefficient? I know there's things like Fume FX and I know there are other compositors, and 3D modeling software that can do particle and fluid simulation, so I'm wondering if I should switch and what a few suggestions might be.

I don't have a meager system, my specs are:
- 32GB DDR3
- Intel Core i7 3930K 2.30Ghz
- NVIDIA Quadro 4000
- Gigabyte X79-UP4
- 2 Samsung 250GB SSDs running in RAID 0


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Dave LaRonde
Re: Time to upgrade?
on Feb 25, 2015 at 6:48:07 pm

Have you looked at Fusion?

Dave LaRonde
Promotion Producer
KGAN (CBS) & KFXA (Fox) Cedar Rapids, IA


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Ted Mihu
Re: Time to upgrade?
on Feb 25, 2015 at 7:02:48 pm

Not yet. I don't see any good particle simulation examples. Though I do see that it has that feature on the Black Magic website.


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Dave LaRonde
Re: Time to upgrade?
on Feb 25, 2015 at 11:25:44 pm

There's a freebie Fusion Lite tryout for Win, and I believe it includes particles. Node-based compositing. You might want to check it out.

There's a boatload of grumbling about After Effects & Yosemite: it's just a bad match. Windows? Okay. And more grumbling from several parties that you have to rent Adobe applications now.

Dave LaRonde
Promotion Producer
KGAN (CBS) & KFXA (Fox) Cedar Rapids, IA


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Ted Mihu
Re: Time to upgrade?
on Feb 25, 2015 at 11:51:53 pm

I'm on Windows, and I worked on Mac for a few months until November. I may be biased but I like working on Windows much better.

As far as the move to Creative Cloud, I like the move. I think it makes the applications more affordable and I really like where Adobe is going with it. Well worth the price in my opinion.

I keep seeing advantages to node-based compositing but I haven't ever seen a clear comparison as to the speed of rendering between something like Nuke/Fusion amd After Effects.


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Mads Nybo Jørgensen
Re: Time to upgrade?
on Feb 26, 2015 at 10:51:21 am

Hey Ted,

As Dave says, there are alternatives such as Fusion.

However, with Adobe AE CC being as great as it is + it has been suggested that it is in for a major upgrade this year to address some of the user criticisms, then now is not the time to move.

However, you get Cinema 4D Lite for free with AE and that may be able to take you up "a level". You should also check out: http://www.x-particles.com/ - their show-reel is impressive, and they are on my shopping-list for when I get that far.

All the Best
Mads

@madsvid, London, UK
Check out my other hangouts:
Twitter: @madsvid
http://mads-thinkingoutloud.blogspot.co.uk


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Blaise Douros
Re: Time to upgrade?
on Mar 3, 2015 at 6:38:21 pm

Note, though, that x-particles doesn't work with C4D lite--you have to have the big kid version.


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