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Jesse ReynoldsVideo is shortened when imported
by on Nov 18, 2014 at 11:57:42 pm

Hello there! I have a problem, need assistance :C

I recorded a rather long and large file size video, a 45 minute video into the AVI format, it is 221 GB in size. That's enormous, right? Well, back to the point. I try importing it into After Effects, but the outpoint while it is in the Library says 1 minute 14 seconds, when the entire video should be there, correct?

How do I solve this, and get my entire video in there to edit while still being lossless until I finish the editing procedure? This has driven me up the wall as I can't find relevant information with Google.


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Graham MacfarlaneRe: Video is shortened when imported
by on Nov 19, 2014 at 11:32:01 am

Hi Jesse,

What codec did you use for your AVI file and what was it recorded on?
Has it been processed in any way before importing to AE?

Graham Macfarlane - CGI specialist
Elyarch Ltd - London UK

3D Studio Max | Vray | Pflow | PhoenixFD | After effects | Mocha


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Jesse ReynoldsRe: Video is shortened when imported
by on Nov 19, 2014 at 1:07:19 pm

It doesn't seem to have any sort of codec, it just has Uncompressed when I recorded.

The only way it had been processed is when I recorded the video with a screen recording software called Camtasia Recorder. After it was recorded, the original video starts and ends correctly, but when it comes into After Effects, it just won't co-operate.

To make it more concise, it was only processed by recording with Camtasia Recorder, rendered into a permanent AVI file through Camtasia Studio, then that file is what I have trouble with inserting into After Effects


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Graham MacfarlaneRe: Video is shortened when imported
by on Nov 19, 2014 at 2:35:34 pm

With the 45 minute file registering as 1min 14sec, what is its frame rate displayed as?

In AE if you drag the 45 minute file from the project pool list, onto the “create new composition” icon, what happens? (Do get a comp that is 1min 14sec long? What is the comp frame rate? Does it play in the comp at all?)

Is the problem reproducible?
For example if you go and record another avi file (2 minutes long for example), and load that into AE, does it read it as less than 2 minutes?

Graham Macfarlane - CGI specialist
Elyarch Ltd - London UK

3D Studio Max | Vray | Pflow | PhoenixFD | After effects | Mocha


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Jesse ReynoldsRe: Video is shortened when imported
by on Nov 19, 2014 at 3:06:17 pm

The framerate is described as 30fps in the details as well as in After Effects.

Well when I place the video in the composition, it plays well enough in the preview in normal recorded speed, but gets chopped off as if the file was only that long when in reality it was much longer.

When I dragged it to the Create New Composition Icon, it stays the same only in a new comp, still 1:14. It plays just the same, but cut off again. I rechecked the original file, still plays all the way to the end. This did happen before from another video I had recorded, so I settled with another file type but I want to know why it won't let me use my avi files to keep it from losing quality when editing

I downloaded a different avi from online, it was only 34 seconds but it completely fits into the composition and library

Edit: Re-rendered the original avi, and importing it into after effects still leads to the same result. File size is smaller now but still ends at 1:15


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Michael SzalapskiRe: Video is shortened when imported
by on Nov 20, 2014 at 2:49:20 pm

Camtasia files historically behave strangely in After Effects. Camtasia themselves have admitted problems with their codec and they recommend choosing alternative options when recording if you plan to use the video in any other post-processing software.

See if Camtasia software can reencode your video file. If not, try capturing again with other settings for the output codec. Check Camtasia's recommendations.

- The Great Szalam
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John CuevasRe: Video is shortened when imported
by on Nov 20, 2014 at 3:39:22 pm

To follow up, Camtasia can encode to a bunch of different formats, so you probably need to open up Camtasia and choose something that works better with AE.

Johnny Cuevas, Editor
Thinkck.com

"I have not failed 700 times. I have succeeded in proving that those 700 ways will not work. When I have eliminated the ways that will not work, I will find the way that will work."
---THOMAS EDISON on inventing the light bulb.


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Jesse ReynoldsRe: Video is shortened when imported
by on Nov 20, 2014 at 5:17:00 pm

Hmmm I see. Before I re-encode the file, do you have any other recommendations on recording software? Something that can output a .avi that will co-operate with Adobe programs?

Edit: I put it back into avi, and also mp4. The mp4 file works correctly, displaying all the content. However I'm still sketchy on using mp4 for further editing. Still, what would you recommend for screen recording software that will lock to applications or select a certain area much like Camtasia does?


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Graham MacfarlaneRe: Video is shortened when imported
by on Nov 20, 2014 at 9:15:31 pm

I can’t recommend any screen recording software, but If you have difficulty with the mp4 (it might prove a bit slow to work with) you could try converting your original avi to the DNxHD codec with MPEG Streamclip (both are free).
Similar to ProRes, DNxHD is a great near lossless codec with quite manageable file sizes and quick decoding which helps to work faster with your footage.

Graham Macfarlane - CGI specialist
Elyarch Ltd - London UK

3D Studio Max | Vray | Pflow | PhoenixFD | After effects | Mocha


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John CuevasRe: Video is shortened when imported
by on Nov 21, 2014 at 3:15:54 am

You can record and re-encode using camtasia. Do your screen capture(I always use the camrec file), then in camtasia use the publish/produce options to encode to an avi, mov, DNxHD. If you use avi, you will have to change from tech smith codec to microsoft(?). All should be good from there.

Johnny Cuevas, Editor
Thinkck.com

"I have not failed 700 times. I have succeeded in proving that those 700 ways will not work. When I have eliminated the ways that will not work, I will find the way that will work."
---THOMAS EDISON on inventing the light bulb.


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Jesse ReynoldsRe: Video is shortened when imported
by on Nov 24, 2014 at 5:01:09 pm

Ok my problem got a work around; what I did was extracted the recorded camtasia files into the files that were recorded, then put those into After Effects and it worked. It seems that camtasia has issues with After Effects when taking their finished rendered product for me.


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Jesse ReynoldsRe: Video is shortened when imported
by on Nov 24, 2014 at 8:06:57 pm

Also I did a recording with the Microsoft Codecs and it worked like a charm. Thank you guys for the help!


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Sebastian SanderRe: Video is shortened when imported
by on Nov 26, 2014 at 11:09:42 am

Yeah, I've had the excact same problem. Neither did media encoder nor premiere pro see the real length of the file. So in the end I used another converter like mpeg streamclip to convert the file. I tried different settings, so I don't remember wich one worked (probably some uncompressed .mov).
Hope this helps :)

Regards
Sebastian


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