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Kadshah NagibeQuestion about Clone Stamp tool
by on Sep 8, 2011 at 7:50:43 am

Can anyone explain to me how I can hide a background object in this case a van from a foreground object a person walking in front of the van. I've watched a few online videos and figured out how to hide the van with the clone stamp tool in AF 5.5. Everything works fine until the person walks in front of the van I get a smudge on the person in the foreground. I've never cloned anything so I'm new to this. I'm just trying to get the van out of the shot since its distracting. Thanks. BTW if you know of any video tutorial on how to do this let me know.

-kaj

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Anders HattneRe: Question about Clone Stamp tool
by on Sep 8, 2011 at 8:31:54 am

I'm not an expert with the clone tool but I wonder if that realy is the best way to resolve this situation.
I've used it only to remove specks, and you have to keep in mind that the spot you sample from updates with the video.. unless that can be changed.

Anyway, I would track the footgage if needed, paint out van in photoshop, place that over in AfterFX and roto the person walking in front of the van.

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Angie TaylorRe: Question about Clone Stamp tool
by on Sep 8, 2011 at 10:03:55 am

Have you tried using the Rotobrush tool to isolate the person and place them on a separate layer on top of the "clean plate" you're creating with the Clone tool?

Hope this helps!

cheers,

Angie

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Kadshah NagibeRe: Question about Clone Stamp tool
by on Sep 8, 2011 at 4:45:00 pm

I used the stamp clone cause I thought that would be the best tool but I'll try the rotobrush and place the person on the top layer. Do you know of any video tutorials that teach how to do this? thanks.

-kaj

http://sweetproductionmedia.com


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Dave LaRondeRe: Question about Clone Stamp tool
by on Sep 8, 2011 at 4:50:01 pm

You will find quite a bit of instructional material on Rotobrush on the Adobe web site. Start here:
http://community.adobe.com/help/search.html?q=rotobrush&hl=en_US&lr=en_US&l...

Dave LaRonde
Sr. Promotion Producer
KCRG-TV (ABC) Cedar Rapids, IA


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Angie TaylorRe: Question about Clone Stamp tool
by on Sep 8, 2011 at 4:51:51 pm

Video tutorial about the Rotobrush;

http://www.vimeo.com/11330476

cheers,

Angie

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Kadshah NagibeRe: Question about Clone Stamp tool
by on Sep 8, 2011 at 5:15:30 pm

wonderful thank you:-)

-kaj

http://sweetproductionmedia.com


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Kadshah NagibeRe: Question about Clone Stamp tool
by on Sep 8, 2011 at 7:42:55 pm

I learned how to you use the rotobrush and I was able to outline the van which isn't moving instead of roto brushing the person. I figure it would be easier to hide the van than the person who's hair is moving around in the wind. However I'm not sure how to proceed at this point. WHat I tried to do was to use the clone stamp tool to hide the van then save it under frame as photoshop layer and brought it to in AE and place it on top of the other layer. Is this the way to do it?

-kaj

http://sweetproductionmedia.com


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Dave LaRondeRe: Question about Clone Stamp tool
by on Sep 8, 2011 at 7:53:32 pm

Sorry, but you did it incorrectly. You need to create a background with NO van in it; this is referred to as a clean plate.
Since the subject walks in front of the van in the background, you need to separate the subject from that background. Once that is done, you then place the subject over the clean plate.

You should know that this is NOT an easy process. It's very difficult, and it can take a very long time. Hair blowing in the wind makes it even more difficult and time-consuming. There is very little that is automatic about the process of rotoscoping. It is why a good roto artist always has work and gets paid very well.

I hope you are successful. But you may also find that it is just too much work and too much time to make fixing the shot worthwhile. If that happens, you may want to ponder this:

Dave's Stock Answer #2:

When you're out on a shoot, and you say, "we'll fix this in post" without knowing PRECISELY HOW you're going to fix it in post, don't shoot it! You'll only end up shooting it over again.

Since post typically costs three times the cost of production, fixing something in post is not a way to save money, but rather a way to spend more of it.

And, before you say "well fix it in post," always consider who's doing the work, especially if you're the one doing the work.

Dave LaRonde
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KCRG-TV (ABC) Cedar Rapids, IA


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Kadshah NagibeRe: Question about Clone Stamp tool
by on Sep 8, 2011 at 8:34:54 pm

thanks Dave. I always try to get it right in camera and rarely do I fix anything in post but unfortunately for me it was one of those shots that I didn't pay attention to the background. If it wasn't such an important shot I would just leave it out but I can't so maybe I will try and blur it a little using the rotobrush but i'm not sure how that can be done. I'll see if I can figure it out. thanks again.

-kaj

http://sweetproductionmedia.com


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