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Christian VildermanRemoving strands of hair from footage.
by on Dec 13, 2015 at 1:31:33 pm

https://www.dropbox.com/s/tu6wuf9zmc8auaz/VR%20FIRST%20CUT%202%20%280-00-14...

Hi

I need to remove the loose strands of hair from this video. You see the hairs on her arms and on the background.

Any tips?

Background is not separate.

thanks


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Dave LaRondeRe: moving strands of hair from footage.
by on Dec 13, 2015 at 4:15:11 pm

For how many frames does this not-very-annoying condition persist?

Dave LaRonde
Promotion Producer
KGAN (CBS) & KFXA (Fox) Cedar Rapids, IA


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Christian VildermanRe: moving strands of hair from footage.
by on Dec 13, 2015 at 4:42:03 pm

I agree its picky but the client demands it :(

60 frames per cut. 24fps

But there are numerous shots and different models.

thanks


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Dave LaRondeRe: moving strands of hair from footage.
by on Dec 13, 2015 at 6:07:52 pm

Ugh. I fear this is one of these, "we'll just fix in in post" situations that won't be easy or fast. If you haven't had to rotoscope before, you will now.

Fortunately, the background and the subject's skin tones are consistent enough to fill the holes created by the rotoscoping. Well, at least they are in this case. There's no telling what the "numerous other models" will bring you.

I hope others have better ideas about fixing these shots, but I don't see any good way around rotoscoping by hand.

Dave LaRonde
Promotion Producer
KGAN (CBS) & KFXA (Fox) Cedar Rapids, IA


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Christian VildermanRe: moving strands of hair from footage.
by on Dec 13, 2015 at 5:50:47 pm
Last Edited By Christian Vilderman on Dec 13, 2015 at 5:58:48 pm

https://forums.creativecow.net/thread/2/961159

any chance this method would work? And if so please can you elaborate on it as I find it quite hard to follow.

Any advice would be great.

Cheers


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Dave LaRondeRe: moving strands of hair from footage.
by on Dec 14, 2015 at 3:23:13 am

I don't know. Building a good high-contrast matte isn't a piece of cake. It certainly WILL NOT take care of errant hair on the subject's shoulders in your example.

You'd spend a lot of time creating the matte... and then what would you use to fill the empty space outside the matte?

Plus, we have no clue about the condition of those other shots you refer to.

I don't know how you're charging for this work, but the numerous hours -- per shot, mind you -- may alter the client's insistence on a complete cleanup. We don't know what's objectionable and what isn't, making it impossible to offer specific advice.

Dave LaRonde
Promotion Producer
KGAN (CBS) & KFXA (Fox) Cedar Rapids, IA


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Jon DoughtieRe: moving strands of hair from footage.
by on Dec 14, 2015 at 4:21:46 pm

What Dave just said might be the real key to this circumstance.

I worked on a project once where I could not get approval from the client, but they could not explain to me why they did not approve it. After a very long, patient conference call, asking a ton of questions, the client finally blurted out, "Well, film!"

I said, "Oh - you wanted your project to be shot and posted on film?" They responded emphatically, "Yes!"

Mind you, we were a local TV station, and this was an existing advertiser we had done work for many times. I explained how the TV industry had abandoned film decades ago for videotape and now file-based. But I let them know several production houses who could meet their requirement. I also shared the probable costs of going the film route.

Suddenly the work was approved - perfectly fine just like it was.

Give them an estimate of the costs to meet their requirement before you start roto work!

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Christian VildermanRe: moving strands of hair from footage.
by on Dec 14, 2015 at 6:09:57 pm

Thanks guys.

I will just explain that rotoscope is the only option and this will stretch well over the deadline.

Thanks again for all your help.


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