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bart stevens
shape layers gradient fill - "handles"- quick key to see them?
on Oct 30, 2014 at 7:10:24 pm

Just wanted to see if there is some quick key I'm missing to pull up the handles for the gradient fill - shape layers.
I've had very inconsistent results with being able to see the handles or having to adjust the start and end point with the sliders.
It's much easier using the handles to adjust those positions, but they aren't always visible.
Any help is appreciated.
Thanks


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Walter Soyka
Re: shape layers gradient fill - "handles"- quick key to see them?
on Oct 30, 2014 at 7:28:48 pm

You must have layer controls visible (Ctrl+Shift+H on a PC, Cmd+Shift+H on a Mac) and you must have the gradient ramp effect selected in the Effect Control panel to get the on-screen controls.

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bart stevens
Re: shape layers gradient fill - "handles"- quick key to see them?
on Oct 31, 2014 at 6:21:51 pm
Last Edited By bart stevens on Oct 31, 2014 at 6:32:48 pm

Thanks for the feedback Walter..
I do have layer controls visible (I can see the blue paths in my comp window)
I select the "Gradient Fill" effect as a part of the shape layer in the composition window.
I don't see my visible handles ( but can control with sliders)
I'm just frustrated because sometimes I can see the handles and sometimes not, just want to figure out why its not consistent.


Thanks
-Bart


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Brian Charles
Re: shape layers gradient fill - "handles"- quick key to see them?
on Oct 31, 2014 at 8:48:39 pm
Last Edited By Brian Charles on Oct 31, 2014 at 9:07:55 pm

I agree, this has always been a mystery to me. The controls don't behave consistently, I'm not sure what makes them appear or disappear.

@ Walter: Bart is referring to Shape Layers gradients, not the Ramp effect.

EDIT: I just experimented with parametric shapes vs bezier shapes, its the parametric ones that don't show the gradient controls, the bezier ones do.





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bart stevens
Re: shape layers gradient fill - "handles"- quick key to see them?
on Nov 3, 2014 at 11:32:11 pm

Thanks Brian,
I was unaware of the difference between parametric and bezier curves, very useful!


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philippe phicata
Re: shape layers gradient fill - "handles"- quick key to see them?
on Dec 10, 2014 at 7:51:56 pm

Create an empty group, drop into the group, shape and its gradient.
Now, if the selection tool and the gradient are selected, you can see and use the manipulators ("handles")


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Erik Waluska
Re: shape layers gradient fill - "handles"- quick key to see them?
on Apr 1, 2016 at 5:09:39 pm

The group thing that Philippe suggested does work, but it's definitely more of a workaround since the handles should show up consistently when you select the gradient fill - group or not. I'm still on CS6 so maybe this is fixed in the newer versions?

Erik Waluska
EAWmedia


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Jud Barnes
Re: shape layers gradient fill - "handles"- quick key to see them?
on Jul 8, 2016 at 1:07:06 pm

Is it as simple as clicking on the selection tool?


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Dayn Wilberding
Re: shape layers gradient fill - "handles"- quick key to see them?
on Jun 25, 2015 at 7:26:05 pm

Did you ever find the solution to this? It's killing me not being able to see the start/end/stops on the comp canvas. Thanks!


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bart stevens
Re: shape layers gradient fill - "handles"- quick key to see them?
on Jun 25, 2015 at 8:44:39 pm

Nothing really consistent...
I usually move the gradient element up and down the hierarchy and that seems to do it, (sometimes!)


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Phillip Seitz
Re: shape layers gradient fill - "handles"- quick key to see them?
on Sep 23, 2015 at 3:22:14 pm

I've always had luck with making sure the layer is selected or at least, the gradient fill under the contents is selected, and then making sure I have my selecting tool selected (the arrow, or shortcut "V"). That always brings up my gradient handles.


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Eric Rothman
Re: shape layers gradient fill - "handles"- quick key to see them?
on Jan 18, 2017 at 4:56:30 pm

Phillipe nailed it. The gradient fill needs to be inside the same group as your shape path.

When you create a gradient fill from scratch, it's placed in the shape layer hierarchy depending on what is selected. So say you create a shape layer with the ellipse tool. You'd have by default the following:

>Contents
>>Ellipse 1
>>>Ellipse Path 1
>>>Stroke 1
>>>Fill 1
>>>Transform: Ellipse 1

Here's the tricky part. Say you go to add a gradient fill or stroke to this. If you have the "Ellipse 1" group (or anything inside it) selected, it will be created inside said group. In this case, you'll be able to see the gradient handles. No problem. However, if you happen to have "Contents" or a different layer or nothing selected, the gradient will be created outside of the "Ellipse 1" group and the handles will be invisible. Super tricky! To fix, just drag the gradient inside the "Ellipse 1" hierarchy and you'll be good to go.

This seems like a bug/oversight on Adobe's part. Would love to see this behave differently in the future.


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Andrew Cheung
Re: shape layers gradient fill - "handles"- quick key to see them?
on Jul 18, 2017 at 11:15:36 pm

It's as Phillipe has said, the gradients need to be in the same group as the the path.
I've found in the most recent version of AE that the gradients are working pretty consistently. If you already had a gradient fill or stroke, highlight your shape under 'Contents' and pressing V for the selection tool. The gradient should pop up.


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