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Bishoy Yousefbuilding a new pc for Ae motion graphics
by on Apr 28, 2014 at 10:07:26 pm

I will build a new pc for rendering a motion graphics projects and I won't use much 3d ray tracing
What is your advice to me ?
This is pc specifications
cpu: Intel Core I7-4770 Haswell 3.4GHz 8MB Cache (2
motherboard: Gigabyte GA-B85-HD3
ram: Kingston HyperX Blu 8GB DDR3 1600MHz CL10 1.5V
vga: MSI N780 TF Twin Frozr Gaming 3GD5/OC GTX 780 3GB GDDR5
case: Zalman Z3 plus
power supply: ZALMAN ZM700-GV 700w 80 Plus Bronze PSU


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Walter SoykaRe: building a new pc for Ae motion graphics
by on Apr 28, 2014 at 11:50:21 pm

You will want more than 8GB of RAM. I'd look at 16-24 GB.

You might also consider SSD drives for the OS/apps and for Ae's persistant disk cache.

Walter Soyka
Principal & Designer at Keen Live
Motion Graphics, Widescreen Events, Presentation Design, and Consulting
RenderBreak Blog - What I'm thinking when my workstation's thinking
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Bishoy YousefRe: building a new pc for Ae motion graphics
by on Apr 28, 2014 at 11:56:11 pm

Thanks for your advice :)
But I want to know if the performance enhancement is big between this pc and my current pc
Cpu i5 750
Vga amd 5850
Ram 4 gigabytes


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Walter SoykaRe: building a new pc for Ae motion graphics
by on Apr 29, 2014 at 12:25:31 pm

[Bishoy Yousef] "But I want to know if the performance enhancement is big between this pc and my current pc
Cpu i5 750
Vga amd 5850
Ram 4 gigabytes"


This system doesn't have enough RAM to take advantage of multiprocessing -- a technology in After Effects that launches multiple copies of the renderer to render multiple frames at the same time on different cores on your CPU.

Simply upgrading the RAM on this system will also give you a big speed boost on final renders (less so on interactions), though of course the new i7 4770 would a bit faster still.

Walter Soyka
Principal & Designer at Keen Live
Motion Graphics, Widescreen Events, Presentation Design, and Consulting
RenderBreak Blog - What I'm thinking when my workstation's thinking
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Bishoy YousefRe: building a new pc for Ae motion graphics
by on Apr 29, 2014 at 12:38:02 pm

I know I am tiring person but I want to know if it worth to build a new pc or just upgrade my current pc ???


AND THANKS IN ADVANCE :)


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Walter SoykaRe: building a new pc for Ae motion graphics
by on Apr 29, 2014 at 12:57:10 pm

[Bishoy Yousef] "I want to know if it worth to build a new pc or just upgrade my current pc ???"

That's one of those questions only you can answer.

I will say that you have not yet maxed out the performance on your current system. RAM is cheap; you might consider buying the maximum amount of RAM your current system can accommodate (16 GB?) and enable multiprocessing for a big performance gain at render time.

You could also buy an SSD for this machine to use for the disk cache, then transfer it to your next computer whenever you get it.

Finally, maybe save up for a bit until you can afford a six-core i7 which will provide a bigger benefit over your current quad-core i5 than the quad-core i7 you are considering would.

Walter Soyka
Principal & Designer at Keen Live
Motion Graphics, Widescreen Events, Presentation Design, and Consulting
RenderBreak Blog - What I'm thinking when my workstation's thinking
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Bishoy YousefRe: building a new pc for Ae motion graphics
by on Apr 29, 2014 at 3:21:28 pm

Thank you very very much :D
and i will say to you what we say in my country (انت برنس)
means that you are an expert :)


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EricBowenRe: building a new pc for Ae motion graphics
by on Apr 29, 2014 at 3:34:29 pm

There is a great performance increase between the 2 CPU's you are comparing which would have a large impact on AE performance. The current system you have is I7 Gen 1. The 4770 is I7 Gen 4. The performance difference both with CPU processing and Ram Bandwidth is considerable likely well over 50%. A SSD drive and video card would also perform far better on the Haswell systemboard ie Z87 board. I would highly suggest you get the new system setup versus spending any real money on upgrading that old of a system. The return on investment would be very low with upgrading a 4 year old system especially for AE work. AE can easily exceed even a current Haswell system with regards to CPU processing. Any less of a configuration and the user experience starts to degrade.

Eric-ADK
Tech Manager
support@adkvideoediting.com


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Bishoy YousefRe: building a new pc for Ae motion graphics
by on Apr 29, 2014 at 3:44:01 pm

As everyone here say that the new pc is better i will build a new pc
Thanks everyone :)


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Walter SoykaRe: building a new pc for Ae motion graphics
by on Apr 29, 2014 at 3:48:02 pm

[EricBowen] " I would highly suggest you get the new system setup versus spending any real money on upgrading that old of a system. The return on investment would be very low with upgrading a 4 year old system especially for AE work."

Eric, would you sooner specify the i7-4770 or the i7-4960X?

Walter Soyka
Principal & Designer at Keen Live
Motion Graphics, Widescreen Events, Presentation Design, and Consulting
RenderBreak Blog - What I'm thinking when my workstation's thinking
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EricBowenRe: building a new pc for Ae motion graphics
by on Apr 29, 2014 at 7:27:44 pm
Last Edited By EricBowen on Apr 29, 2014 at 7:28:50 pm

The 4930K or 4960X would be the ideal configuration point to start with since that is on the X79 platform ie workstation and not the desktop platform. The X79 has 6 Core up to 12 Core Xeon options if you get the X79 board with Xeon Microcode like the Asrock Extreme 9 or Asus WS board. That also gives a ram ceiling of 64GB instead of 32GB on the 4770 Z87 platform. So upgradability in the future is far greater on the X79. I currently run a E5 2697 V2 12 Core on the Asrock X79 board. That easily handles R3D 4K at half resolution playback. It also threads out across all 24 threads in AE making the performance close to a Dual Xeon without the price tag.

Eric-ADK
Tech Manager
support@adkvideoediting.com


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LeMarchal ApricotRe: building a new pc for Ae motion graphics
by on Apr 30, 2015 at 8:23:10 am

Mr Walter

this is my pc performance, and i want your advice about upgrading it, to work with motion graphics.
Ae and Cenima 4D







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