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Daniel Futerman
Best affordable Nvidia graphics card for AE CS6 and above
on Jul 28, 2013 at 3:25:10 pm

Hey all,
I'm planning to upgrade to After Effects CS6 / CC and upgrade my graphics card.

For the past 3 years I've being using AE CS5 + Nvidia GTS 250, and all in all I was happy with the workflow and speed.

So basically, I've started looking into new graphic cards and I'd like one that is supported / recommended by Adobe (http://www.adobe.com/il_en/products/aftereffects/tech-specs.html), but yet I still want to stay withing a resonalble budget of +/- $500.

I'd be really happy to hear which card you guys recommend within this budget.. Obviously I'd like it to be as powerful as possible considering CC has cinema 4D Lite which I assume needs quite a lot of 'power'.

Thanks a lot! Any help much appreciated.

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Todd Kopriva
Re: Best affordable Nvidia graphics card for AE CS6 and above
on Jul 28, 2013 at 6:53:12 pm

Any of the GTX 5xx and 6xx cards are a good choice for performance/price.

See Danny Princz's benchmark test results here:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/lv?key=0AuE_AZZfskx3dHotTzVGamhiUkIySTU...

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Daniel Futerman
Re: Best affordable Nvidia graphics card for AE CS6 and above
on Jul 29, 2013 at 8:30:38 am

Many thanks for your help Todd.

I had a look at the benchmark test (awesome work there by Danny Princz), and had a difficulty at deciding which parameter is most important. What I would think is that it all comes down to render time. The faster the render time is, the better the graphic card is. But since I'm not really a technical guy, I'm not sure if that assumption is correct?

Also, this might be a dumb question, but in the Value (price vs performance) tab, do I want the number to be high or low? i.e. is 1.38 better than 0.96?

My humble conclusion based on the benchmark tests is that for a price lower than $500, the GTX670 is one of the best options.

I'd love to hear your opinion on this!
It's probably also important to note that I'm using Windows 7 64bit, i7 920 @2.67 GHZ, 12GB ram.

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Daniel Futerman
Re: Best affordable Nvidia graphics card for AE CS6 and above
on Jul 29, 2013 at 10:49:43 am

Hmm actually.. I don't see the GTX 670 on the recommended list of Adobe here..

Is it still ok? Or will I be limited in some way?

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Todd Kopriva
Re: Best affordable Nvidia graphics card for AE CS6 and above
on Jul 29, 2013 at 8:05:52 pm

The GTX 670 is listed on the system requirements page here:
http://www.adobe.com/products/aftereffects/tech-specs.html

The page that you linked to is stale and needs to be fixed.

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Daniel Futerman
Re: Best affordable Nvidia graphics card for AE CS6 and above
on Jul 30, 2013 at 4:47:41 pm

Great, thanks Tod!

So just to sum up this post, does anyone have experience with the gtx 670? Should I buy it or is there a better option for approx. the same price of $399?

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EricBowen
Re: Best affordable Nvidia graphics card for AE CS6 and above
on Jul 30, 2013 at 7:25:42 pm

The 670GTX or 770GTX would be the 2 options. The 770GTX is not on the supported list yet I believe but likely will be soon. I would however look at 24GB of ram before investing to much in the GPU.

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Todd Kopriva
Re: Best affordable Nvidia graphics card for AE CS6 and above
on Jul 30, 2013 at 8:47:23 pm

> The 770GTX is not on the supported list yet I believe but likely will be soon.


Have you been peeking at my list of cards to test? ;-)

> I would however look at 24GB of ram before investing to much in the GPU.


That is excellent advice.

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sylvain hugues
Re: Best affordable Nvidia graphics card for AE CS6 and above
on Oct 4, 2014 at 10:15:35 pm

Why 24GB of ram are so important ?
If I create 3D animation and HD after effects, the video card will be as much important.
You mean a good video card with 8 or 16 gb ram would be a waste ?
Merci, Sylvain


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Michael Szalapski
Re: Best affordable Nvidia graphics card for AE CS6 and above
on Oct 6, 2014 at 4:27:24 pm

[sylvain hugues] "Why 24GB of ram are so important ?
If I create 3D animation and HD after effects, the video card will be as much important.
You mean a good video card with 8 or 16 gb ram would be a waste ?"


The GPU does very little for After Effects, see here [link]

RAM and processor power are much more important.

For the most part, the GPU only matters in After Effects if you're using the (obsolete) ray-traced 3d renderer or certain third-party plugins (like Element 3D from Video Copilot). And, if you are using third-party plugins, AE's tested GPU list doesn't matter (since it's only testing to work with the ray-traced renderer). You should just focus on what the third-party plugin recommends.

Now, the GPU does matter very much for Premiere. So, if you use Premiere, look at Premiere's requirements, any third-party plugin requirements, and requirements for any other software you might run on your system and you'll be fine for AE too.

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Scott Green
Re: Best affordable Nvidia graphics card for AE CS6 and above
on Oct 16, 2014 at 10:06:54 am

I'm working with a mid 2012 Mac Pro 12 Core with 64GB of RAM, 512GB SSD, LCS Cinema Display, and the standard graphics card that came with the machine.

I use After Effects CC a lot but seem to be experiencing long waiting times when previewing my animations, it's really good at rendering though.

I'm wondering if I need a GPU upgrade and which card I should look into. Nvidia recommended the K5000 when I spoke to them on their live chat, I'm just wondering if this card is going to give me a better/faster previewing experience or what other cards I should look at or other solutions that might help?

Thanks.

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Michael Szalapski
Re: Best affordable Nvidia graphics card for AE CS6 and above
on Oct 21, 2014 at 5:39:31 pm

What do you mean when you talk about previewing?

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Scott Green
Re: Best affordable Nvidia graphics card for AE CS6 and above
on Feb 3, 2015 at 10:26:41 am

Hi sorry, I didn't reply sooner, when I said previewing I meant when doing a RAM preview.

I still haven't upgraded my GPU yet but have been experiencing problems as I've been doing lots of work using Trapcode Particular and it's starting to struggle. In this one comp it's hopeless at previewing frames. When I do finally get a preview and attempt to move along the timeline it can take up to 3 minutes to preview that frame.

I'm desperate for a GPU upgrade now.

Any suggestions which one I should go for in my 2012 12 Core Mac Pro with Mini Display ports?
What's the most powerful for under £1,000?
As I mentioned, Nvidia did recommend the Quadro K5000 which I'm not sure is the best one to spend my money on. Some suggestions would be really appreciated.

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Michael Szalapski
Re: Best affordable Nvidia graphics card for AE CS6 and above
on Feb 3, 2015 at 2:14:45 pm

A GPU won't help at all with the issues you're describing. If you'll look at a link I posted earlier in this thread, you will see that AE actually uses the GPU for very little. Now, some third-party effects do, but Particular isn't one of them.

What processor do you have in there?
What OS are you using?

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Scott Green
Re: Best affordable Nvidia graphics card for AE CS6 and above
on Feb 3, 2015 at 4:39:33 pm

OSX Yosemite Version 10.10.1

12-core (standard configuration)
- Two 2.4GHz 6-Core Intel Xeon E5645 processors
- 12MB of fully shared L3 cache per processor
- Turbo Boost dynamic performance up to 2.67GHz
- Hyper-Threading technology for up to 24 virtual cores

Full spec:
http://support.apple.com/kb/SP652

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Michael Szalapski
Re: Best affordable Nvidia graphics card for AE CS6 and above
on Feb 6, 2015 at 2:24:35 pm

Your low clock speed might be your issue. Some things in AE are still single-threaded, so you're limited to the clock speed of one of your cores. Rendering, however, can often use all of your cores. This would explain your slow interactivity, but fast renders.

Thankfully, a majority of the AE team at Adobe is working on rewriting AE's core to make this kind of stuff better.

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Scott Green
Re: Best affordable Nvidia graphics card for AE CS6 and above
on Feb 6, 2015 at 3:22:09 pm

Anything I can do in the meantime to check and solve any low clock speed issues?

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Michael Szalapski
Re: Best affordable Nvidia graphics card for AE CS6 and above
on Feb 6, 2015 at 6:33:26 pm

There are a number of things you can do to try to get AE to perform better. Here are some: http://blogs.adobe.com/aftereffects/2011/02/optimizing-for-performance-adob...

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Daniel Futerman
Re: Best affordable Nvidia graphics card for AE CS6 and above
on Jul 31, 2013 at 8:30:59 am

Thanks for your advice Eric.
I think I'll go ahead and purchase the GTX 670, and look into getting 24GB of ram.

Appreciate your help guys, thanks!

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