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giacomo citti
manage a 2D space like 3D
on Feb 18, 2013 at 10:15:48 pm

I would like to zoom in the command panel (red circle)

until obtaining this frontal view

but I can't find the right way.
Is this possible using a camera and making the panel layer a 3d layer ?

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mathew fuller
Re: manage a 2D space like 3D
on Feb 18, 2013 at 10:20:03 pm

There is so much missing info to answer this question it exhausts me just thinking about it.

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giacomo citti
Re: manage a 2D space like 3D
on Feb 18, 2013 at 11:12:07 pm

Sorry, I'll try to add some more info. I apologise in advance for my poor English.
I created the ambient of the first image with illustrator. It's a flat scene. I made a short animation in which the blue tube close itself as shown. At this point I want to give a closer look to the "control panel" that's also made with illustrator and that I next want to animate (moving hands and other).
I want to give the impression of a camera rotating and zooming the panel.

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Joseph W. Bourke
Re: manage a 2D space like 3D
on Feb 18, 2013 at 10:55:34 pm

A simple way to do it would be to divide up the shots. Make your zoom in, making sure your graphic is high enough rez to hold up for the zoom in, then cut, or dissolve to the panel full on.

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giacomo citti
Re: manage a 2D space like 3D
on Feb 18, 2013 at 11:15:48 pm

Thanks for the tip but I was searching for a transition more "realistic" and fluid, without cut or fade

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Dave LaRonde
Re: manage a 2D space like 3D
on Feb 19, 2013 at 12:02:01 am

[giacomo citti] "I was searching for a transition more "realistic" and fluid, without cut or fade"

The problem is that any camera move that gets closer to the control panel means that there will be 3D perspective changes. Your main image, the background, is two dimensional. You can't make a move look very realistic.

Dave LaRonde
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chris brett
Re: manage a 2D space like 3D
on Feb 18, 2013 at 11:20:20 pm

------- Joes idea is good - sometimes a shot change looks better anyway ...

................. however - you could try corner pinning the control panel and using lots of motion blur --- chris ---


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Tero Ahlfors
Re: manage a 2D space like 3D
on Feb 19, 2013 at 8:02:23 am

[chris brett] "however - you could try corner pinning the control panel and using lots of motion blur"

I would do this too if I had the same assets. A fast motion blurry "zoom" in to the panel.


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Steve Blacker
Re: manage a 2D space like 3D
on Feb 18, 2013 at 11:42:55 pm

If you want a continuous 3D camera move to zoom in to that panel, you'd really need to either construct the panel pedestal with solids, thereby creating a 3D object in AE, or you would need to do it in a 3D program. Otherwise, yes, a lot of messing around with corner pinning and stuff that I don't think would work well at all.

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Vishesh Arora
Re: manage a 2D space like 3D
on Feb 19, 2013 at 9:35:31 am

As everyone has said whole scene should be composite in a 3D space. Otherwise you have to cheat using the the techniques discussed above. You can also create the whole scene in after effects only using certain effects like Circle, CC Cylinder and some solid layers.

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Tudor "Ted" Jelescu
Re: manage a 2D space like 3D
on Feb 19, 2013 at 9:59:46 am

It seems that re-building the whole shot as a 3d scene in AE would be the best. The most complex element is the cylinder shape in the middle. I would use either FreeForm Pro or ShapeShifter AE to create that.
For cylindrical shapes in FF Pro:

http://library.creativecow.net/jelescu_tudor/AE-3D-tunnels-FreeForm-Pro-1/1

http://library.creativecow.net/jelescu_tudor/AE-3D-tunnels-FreeForm-Pro-2/1

Tudor "Ted" Jelescu
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giacomo citti
Re: manage a 2D space like 3D
on Feb 21, 2013 at 11:37:55 pm

Thanks everybody for your advices.
Cause lack of time I finally decided to change the command panel a little bit to simplify the needed camera movement avoiding to re-create a 3D scene.
I applied motion blur to try to hide pixel came out from the big scale up.

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