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Laure Carnet
Resolution/quality loss using After effect with photoshop and final cut pro.
on Jan 25, 2013 at 3:00:09 pm

Hello there,

I shall explain my problem.

I am working with three different programs. Final cut 7, photoshop, and after effects.
I have taken a psd still from final cut to work in photoshop. I create a still from the final cut pro sequence using 'export- Using quick time conversion'.
In photoshop I have layered a project to work in after effects to make an animation.
The animation is then exported back from after effects into final cut.
I work with PAL.

When i export the project from after effect back into final cut pro, i lose quality/ resolution. I export using 'pre-render' then 'best setting' and 'quick time' in the output module'. The video codec i chose is 'animation'.
Where do i go wrong?

Many thanks


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Vishesh Arora
Re: Resolution/quality loss using After effect with photoshop and final cut pro.
on Jan 26, 2013 at 7:13:53 pm

Laure

Use PNG Codec instead of Animation which is Lossless.

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Walter Soyka
Re: Resolution/quality loss using After effect with photoshop and final cut pro.
on Jan 27, 2013 at 6:40:05 am

[Vishesh Arora] "Use PNG Codec instead of Animation which is Lossless. "

Animation (at 100%) is lossless, too.


[Laure Carnet] "I have taken a psd still from final cut to work in photoshop. I create a still from the final cut pro sequence using 'export- Using quick time conversion'. In photoshop I have layered a project to work in after effects to make an animation. The animation is then exported back from after effects into final cut."

Are you working with standard-definition PAL video? Have you rendered with fields? If so, have you rendered with the correct field order? PAL is upper-field first for every codec except PAL DV, which is lower-field first.

Walter Soyka
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Laure Carnet
Re: Resolution/quality loss using After effect with photoshop and final cut pro.
on Jan 28, 2013 at 12:22:45 pm

Hello Walter,

Thank you very much for your time.
Yes, i am working with standard pal and i am rendering using quick time 25 frames.

I have rendered using ProRes, with Ae rendering Trillions of Colors as you advised but the loss of resolution is still happening.. To be able to render in trillions of colors i had to rework the initial image as psd file at 16 bit on photoshop.

Best
laure


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Chris Wright
Re: Resolution/quality loss using After effect with photoshop and final cut pro.
on Jan 27, 2013 at 6:53:10 am

if you're working with sky gradients, most all 444 video codecs are only 8bit. You'd need a psd or tiff trillions sequence to fully protect trips through software.


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Walter Soyka
Re: Resolution/quality loss using After effect with photoshop and final cut pro.
on Jan 27, 2013 at 7:30:35 am

[Chris Wright] "if you're working with sky gradients, most all 444 video codecs are only 8bit. You'd need a psd or tiff trillions sequence to fully protect trips through software."

Good point.

But image sequences are messy with FCP. If you're round-tripping 10b sources with FCP, I'd recommend one of the flavors of ProRes, with Ae rendering Trillions of Colors.

Walter Soyka
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Vishesh Arora
Re: Resolution/quality loss using After effect with photoshop and final cut pro.
on Jan 27, 2013 at 9:44:21 am

Walter
Animation (at 100%) is lossless, too.

Thanks for the info. I was not aware of that.

Vishesh Arora
3D and Motion Graphics Artist
Films Rajendra

Blog:
http://digieffects.wordpress.com

2011 3D Demo Reel:








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Laure Carnet
Re: Resolution/quality loss using After effect with photoshop and final cut pro.
on Jan 28, 2013 at 10:27:07 am

Hello Chris,
Thank you very much for your time.
I have created a 16bit psd file on photoshop that got exported using trillion from After effect after creating the animation as you advised and the quality loss is still happening..
Best
laure


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Laure Carnet
Re: Resolution/quality loss using After effect with photoshop and final cut pro.
on Jan 28, 2013 at 6:56:16 pm

Hello Chris,

Sorry if there is cross posting. i think i did not send the previous message properly.

Thank you very much for your reply.
I have created a 16bit psd file on photoshop that i then exported from After effect using trillion as you advised and the quality loss is still happening.
So i must do something wrong.
Best
laure


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Chris Wright
Re: Resolution/quality loss using After effect with photoshop and final cut pro.
on Jan 30, 2013 at 12:18:08 pm

are you using any 8 bit effects and is the interpretation interlaced upper/lower field or separate non or preserve best edges. Is color management set to a low gamut? try simple importing and exporting an unchanged image and roundtrip it. Work out from there.


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Laure Carnet
Re: Resolution/quality loss using After effect with photoshop and final cut pro.
on Feb 12, 2013 at 8:50:44 pm

Hello Chris,
Sorry for such late reply but i was working abroad without an internet connection.
Thank you very much for your piece of advice. Will try it out
Best
laure


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Fernando Petaco
Re: Resolution/quality loss using After effect with photoshop and final cut pro.
on Feb 20, 2013 at 1:11:28 am

In what format should I export a video made in After Effects (PC) with transparency for editing in Final Cut (Mac)?
I sent the material to the customer in QUICK TIME / uncompressed / RGB + ALPHA and he says it loses quality.


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