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Michael BernardH264 in After Effects
by on Dec 11, 2012 at 3:33:02 am

After getting not so great results with the H264 encoder built into After Effects, I decided to get Quicktime Pro in hopes that it came with a better H264 encoder. I then downloaded X264, which I heard yields even better results. My question is this. Now that I have the X264 encoder, will I get the same results if I'm exporting X264 from After Effects as I would from Quicktime, or FCP? Is it just the encoder that determines the results, or does the parent software have an effect on the quality as well? Thanks.


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Angelo LorenzoRe: H264 in After Effects
by on Dec 11, 2012 at 5:36:56 am

Just the codec. Depending on what program you use may, however, determine which advanced controls are available in the codec's properties.

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Vishesh AroraRe: H264 in After Effects
by on Dec 11, 2012 at 6:34:52 am

Michael

H264 encoder do interframe(or temporal) compression. I would suggest to use Media Encoder for rendering.

Add and manage items in the encoding queue

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Dave LaRondeRe: H264 in After Effects
by on Dec 11, 2012 at 3:14:28 pm

Todd Kopriva from Adobe -- one of the the guys who literally wrote the book on using AE -- recommends compressing from AE to H.264 ONLY by going through Adobe Media Encoder.

Open AME, Find the AE project, Find the comp, Add it to the AME Queue, Use the appropriate encoding preset and you're good to go.

Dave LaRonde
Former Sr. Promotion Producer
KCRG-TV (ABC) Cedar Rapids, IA


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Angelo LorenzoRe: H264 in After Effects
by on Dec 11, 2012 at 4:27:40 pm

Is that a quality decision? There is proof of AE adding a very very slight contrast adjustment to h.264, does that bypass?

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Dave LaRondeRe: H264 in After Effects
by on Dec 11, 2012 at 4:43:38 pm

You're doubtlessly a LOT pickier than I am about subtle variations from original video, so I probably can't address that issue.

But when Todd Kopriva writes, "Do it this way", I'll choose do it that way.

With his great depth of AE experience across all types of systems, and his knowledge of more hardware/software pitfalls than I'll ever experience, Todd rarely makes such unambiguous statements.
When he does, it's something of an occasion.

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Angelo LorenzoRe: H264 in After Effects
by on Dec 11, 2012 at 4:28:29 pm

Or was the problem that AE didn't allow 2-pass encoding?

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Dave LaRondeRe: H264 in After Effects
by on Dec 12, 2012 at 3:09:14 pm

I don't have a ready answer, but I bet you can answer it yourself.

Render the same comp twice: once in AE (no multipass), once in AME (multipass), and compare the two.

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Michael BernardRe: H264 in After Effects
by on Dec 11, 2012 at 7:48:40 pm

Thanks for all the great input. Looks like I'll be trying Adobe Media Encoder. I don't know why I never learned about that to begin with. I'm trying to get the best quality for my Vimeo upload, but apparently Vimeo re-encodes the file anyways. I don't understand how there is such professional looking quality on that site, but my upload quality always gets stomped on.


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Marv CamalichRe: H264 in After Effects
by on Jun 4, 2016 at 9:21:16 am

I'd like to know why did they remove the h264 encoding in After Effects CC. I know you can in THEORY export the video to Media Encoder but the short cut "Export using Adobe Encoder" is just not working.

I truly loved the h264 encoding specially in 10mps depth because it was so light, easy to transfer and with a great great quality. Any way, I guess I just can't stay in the past. Is there a way I can render my video/animation with the quality and weight the good ol' h264 had?

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Dave LaRondeRe: H264 in After Effects
by on Jun 4, 2016 at 3:10:48 pm

Two reasons:
The quicktime implementation of H.264 stinks on ice. Apple's no longer supporting it, anyway.
AE can't do multipass encoding, which improves H.264 image quality.

So it's not there anymore.

Dave LaRonde
Promotion Producer
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