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Dean Cook
AE CS6 continuous render fail at same frame, deadline today! eeek!
on May 30, 2012 at 10:03:13 am

Hey guys,

I have looked around the interweb and have tried various solutions but I simply cannot render from CS6. It keeps failing on the same frame (23:10), although there is nothing at this frame that doesn't appear throughout the project and rendered previous to the faulty frame.

My project is a simple 30second animation, I have used no footage just PNG's imported from PS. I have used Optical Flares but have pre-rendered those to ease the strain. I have used twitch plugin for some simple text slide effects. The animation is really simple and something that I did all the time in CS5 without a problem.

I have systematically gone through the project and removed my blur adjustment layer and other small effects to see if they are causing the problems. Even when they are disabled it stills fails on frame 23:10

I am working on a Macbook Pro 4gig RAM,
I have installed the AE 11.01 update.
I have tried the 'Secret' menu workaround to no joy. (Disable Layer Cache, Purge every 1 frame)
Maximum Disk Cache is set to my external HDD at 40gig.
RAm for other apps- 1.5gig
RAM for AE- 2.5gigs


Project details:
Reso- 1080p
All images used are less than 150k.
Frame rate: 29.7
No footage used in project, just .PNG images.

Here is the log report- (Please note that for speed I have started the render just before culprit frame)

30/05/2012 10:50:49 GMT+01:00: Starting composition “Genesis”.


Render Settings: Best Settings
Quality: Best
Resolution: Full
Size: 1920 x 1080
Proxy Use: Use No Proxies
Effects: Current Settings
Disk Cache: Read Only
Color Depth: Current Settings
Frame Blending: On for Checked Layers
Field Render: Off
Pulldown: Off
Motion Blur: On for Checked Layers

Solos: Current Settings
Time Span: Work Area
Start: 0;00;23;03
End: 0;00;29;29
Duration: 0;00;06;27
Frame Rate: 29.97 (comp)
Guide Layers: All Off
Skip Existing Files: Off

Output Module: Lossless
Output To: /Volumes/Falsi HDD/1_Falsify/Design/SonarFates/Rich London/Genesis Flyer Animation/Renders/GenesisV1.mp4
Format: H.264
Output Info: MainConcept H.264 Video
Output Info: Bitrate: 30.00 Mbps
Include: Project Link
Output Audio: Off
Channels: RGB
Depth: Millions of Colors
Color: Premultiplied
Resize: -
Crop: -
Final Size: 1920 x 1080
Profile: -
Embed Profile:

Post-Render Action: None




0;00;23;03 (1): 1 Seconds
0;00;23;04 (2): 2 Seconds
0;00;23;05 (3): 1 Seconds
0;00;23;06 (4): 2 Seconds
0;00;23;07 (5): 2 Seconds
0;00;23;08 (6): 1 Seconds
0;00;23;09 (7): 2 Seconds
0;00;23;10 (8): 1 Seconds
30/05/2012 10:51:03 GMT+01:00: Finished composition “Genesis”.



Total Time Elapsed: 13 Seconds

Log closed on 30/05/2012 at 10:51:04 GMT+01:00



I am really starting to get worried now and I may have to re-do everything in CS5.

If anybody knows any way to help me out I would much appreciate it as my back is against the wall right now as the deadline is fast approaching.

Thank you in advance


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John Cuevas
Re: AE CS6 continuous render fail at same frame, deadline today! eeek!
on May 30, 2012 at 11:07:24 am

Since you are on a deadline, I'll skip trying to figuring out the "why" it's happening and move to a solution you could try.

Create a folder, and render the project to a TIF sequence. If it fails at a certain point, you will have a working animation to that point and all you will have to do is change your render area to where it failed and start from there.

Once you have all 900 frames rendered you can bring import them as a sequence and render to the codec/file(with audio) that is your deliverable.

Johnny Cuevas, Editor
Thinkck.com

"I have not failed 700 times. I have succeeded in proving that those 700 ways will not work. When I have eliminated the ways that will not work, I will find the way that will work."
---THOMAS EDISON on inventing the light bulb.


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Kevin Camp
Re: AE CS6 continuous render fail at same frame, deadline today! eeek!
on May 30, 2012 at 11:41:58 am

are you seeing an error message? the log doesn't indicate an error.

if you are not seeing an error message, make suer that the comp's work area is set for the full duration of the comp, and that the render settings are also set to render the full duration of the comp.

also, though this is probably not part of the problem, i would not render to h.264 from after effects. i would render to an uncompressed or lossless compression, then compress that file with a compression utility that can do a multi-pass encode to h.264 (like adobe media encoder), your image quality will be better and the file size is often smaller.

Kevin Camp
Senior Designer
KCPQ, KMYQ & KRCW


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Dean Cook
Re: AE CS6 continuous render fail at same frame, deadline today! eeek!
on May 30, 2012 at 11:46:13 am

Ah thank you guys you have helped no end. My render is finally working. Relief!

@Kevin. I think I will render to a quicktime from now on just like you suggested.

Thank you again :)


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VideoPlaze Patrick Eichenberger
Re: AE CS6 continuous render fail at same frame, deadline today! eeek!
on Jun 21, 2012 at 3:19:16 pm

Ii know, its too late for you, but i had the same issue. I think it is cause you used the twitch plugin. I rendered my project without this plugin and voila, it has worked. Maybe the plugin works not right with cs6?!
Cu


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Mikkel Sørensen
Re: AE CS6 continuous render fail at same frame, deadline today! eeek!
on Jul 6, 2012 at 9:52:54 am

I had same problem with Twich.
They have made an update you can download from Video Copilot, and now it works as before!

I still have a lot of failed renders after switching to Cs6 even without Twitch, but maybe its the H.264 compression that does it?


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Kevin Dooley
Re: AE CS6 continuous render fail at same frame, deadline today! eeek!
on Jul 18, 2012 at 2:22:19 am

The last update I see to Twitch on VCP's website is from 2010 - do you have a link to this newer update?

Kevin Dooley
Media Director
Pantego Bible Church


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Derek Nickell
Re: AE CS6 continuous render fail at same frame, deadline today! eeek!
on Aug 28, 2012 at 4:37:38 am

I think Twitch is doing it to me in CS6 as well. The render kept failing around the twitch effect in my project. Not at any specific frame, sometimes getting all the way through.

Just finished it in a TIF sequence.


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Israjel Karapetjan
Re: AE CS6 continuous render fail at same frame, deadline today! eeek!
on Sep 11, 2012 at 3:50:11 pm

Bro PLZ help me i have my intro from cinema 4d to after effects i have twich effect on it and it failed i tried all formats of video plz sry for my english plz rlly i need your help How can i finished it in Tiff plz help with tutorial plz plz Name Of GOD plz help ! :((( (liked)


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Derek Nickell
Re: AE CS6 continuous render fail at same frame, deadline today! eeek!
on Sep 11, 2012 at 4:05:08 pm

IN your render queue, change your output module to TIFF Sequence with Alpha (you can setup a custom TIFF sequence if you want, but this will work).

This will export individual loss less TIFF frames to your specified directory.

Import the TIFF files back into the project and make sure you select all of them and make sure TIF sequence is selected. This will create a sequence in your project folder.

Right (ctrl) click the new sequence and select interpret footage and make sure your FPS is set to your initial frame rate. Create a new comp by dragging that sequence to the 'make new comp' button and export it like you would any other sequence.

Since the frames are already rendered, it doesn't have to compute the effects while it renders.

Should work.


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Israjel Karapetjan
Re: AE CS6 continuous render fail at same frame, deadline today! eeek!
on Sep 11, 2012 at 5:59:19 pm

bro txs that you answer me BUT i dont understand what are you typed plz is there something with video or just something easier plz i change only the render queae to tiff+alpha but its still not working plz bro i rlly need your help :(


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Derek Nickell
Re: AE CS6 continuous render fail at same frame, deadline today! eeek!
on Sep 11, 2012 at 7:27:33 pm

Is it still failing during render?


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Israjel Karapetjan
Re: AE CS6 continuous render fail at same frame, deadline today! eeek!
on Sep 11, 2012 at 7:49:13 pm

nooo :( plz any helps?


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Israjel Karapetjan
Re: AE CS6 continuous render fail at same frame, deadline today! eeek!
on Sep 11, 2012 at 7:51:25 pm

heey bro do you have skype msn or teamviewer something that you can do for me plzz :((


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Derek Nickell
Re: AE CS6 continuous render fail at same frame, deadline today! eeek!
on Sep 11, 2012 at 8:23:36 pm

I'm on set right now, so no. I can't really spell it out any further than I have.

Export as TIF Sequence
Import TIF as sequence
Render Sequence as needed.


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Israjel Karapetjan
Re: AE CS6 continuous render fail at same frame, deadline today! eeek!
on Sep 12, 2012 at 5:53:14 pm

bro sry for spam but how must i do that
rlly sry for the spam bro <3 txs for your help but id understand nothing!


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Mark Easton
Re: AE CS6 continuous render fail at same frame, deadline today! eeek!
on Apr 10, 2013 at 2:26:12 am

Your version of Twitch is not up to date with cs6.

You can download the update from here http://www.videocopilot.net/support/updates/

Just replace the Twitchplugin file :]

Hope this helps


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andrew bird
Re: AE CS6 continuous render fail at same frame, deadline today! eeek!
on May 22, 2013 at 12:57:13 pm

Late, but always worth posting to help future renderers.

Rendering a FULL COMP; AE will stop the render prematurely with the usual render complete "bling!".
AE does not report any errors, it just stops.

The four times i've encountered this with various second hand files, there's always a VC "Twitch" or "VC Reflect" plug in somewhere… they were the culprits in all four cases.

My best and most effective workaround was to simply pre-comp the layer with the VC effect which indeed AK nearly always encourages for various reasons. Sorry if this is not possible.

:)


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