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Andy Taplin
Mercury playback capable card for Mac Pro 2007 (2.1)?
on Aug 3, 2011 at 4:20:17 pm

Hi All

When checking the specs for a Quadro 4000 for Mac graphics card I realised it's not compatible with my MacPro circa 2007 - the 2.1 model. Any one know of another card(s) that will give me Mercury playback capability with my Mac Pro in CS5.5?

Thanks


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Dave LaRonde
Re: Mercury playback capable card for Mac Pro 2007 (2.1)?
on Aug 3, 2011 at 4:58:41 pm

You could ask this on the Premiere Pro forum, where you're more likely to get an authoritative answer. The Mercury Playback engine is irrelevant in AE.

Dave LaRonde
Sr. Promotion Producer
KCRG-TV (ABC) Cedar Rapids, IA


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Michael Szalapski
Re: Mercury playback capable card for Mac Pro 2007 (2.1)?
on Aug 3, 2011 at 5:06:16 pm

Since Mercury Playback has nothing whatsoever to do with After Effects (and the graphics card has little to no effect on After Effects' performance), perhaps you should ask this in the Premiere forum. In Premiere the graphics card matters and Mercury Playback is a thing.

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Andy Taplin
Re: Mercury playback capable card for Mac Pro 2007 (2.1)?
on Aug 3, 2011 at 5:24:57 pm

Thanks for the replies and pardon my ignorance! I'll also post on the Premier forum.

If I could rephrase the question though, can anyone recommend a card that will significantly improve rendering/encoding performance as well as particles, 3D etc., in After Effects (and perhaps other CS5 apps as well) over the ATI Radeon X1900 XT I'm currently using - and be compatible with a 2007 Mac Pro.

Thanks

Andy Taplin
Director / Lighting Cameraman
http://www.andytaplin.co.uk


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Dave LaRonde
Re: Mercury playback capable card for Mac Pro 2007 (2.1)?
on Aug 3, 2011 at 5:51:33 pm

[Andy Taplin] "If I could rephrase the question though, can anyone recommend a card that will significantly improve rendering/encoding performance as well as particles, 3D etc., in After Effects..."

Not for After Effects!
A hot card is largely irrelevant in AE; there are very VERY few things that benefit from a great card, and they're limited to basically one or two third-party plugins. Generally, you get a good card for OTHER applications, and AE is a secondary or tertiary consideration.

However, lots of fast processors and a boatload of RAM do indeed help AE speed.

Dave LaRonde
Sr. Promotion Producer
KCRG-TV (ABC) Cedar Rapids, IA


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Andy Taplin
Re: Mercury playback capable card for Mac Pro 2007 (2.1)?
on Aug 3, 2011 at 5:54:03 pm

Understood, thanks Dave.

Andy Taplin
Director / Lighting Cameraman
http://www.andytaplin.co.uk


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Michael Szalapski
Re: Mercury playback capable card for Mac Pro 2007 (2.1)?
on Aug 3, 2011 at 5:56:30 pm

Sorry, I clearly didn't explain myself well. The graphics card makes no difference to AE. There are very few effects that are sped up by it. AE renders on the CPU, not the GPU. Some third party effects do use it. Off the top of my head: some of the Zaxwerks plugins (I think), Knoll Light Factory Pro, Optical Flares (I think), and Element (which has yet to be released).

Adobe employee Todd Kopriva chimes in on these threads with a bit more info: [link] and [link]

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Michael Szalapski
Re: Mercury playback capable card for Mac Pro 2007 (2.1)?
on Aug 3, 2011 at 5:59:26 pm

Apparently I keep typing whilst others are doing the same. Hopefully I've been able to offer a bit more depth to counteract my slowness. :)

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Andy Taplin
Re: Mercury playback capable card for Mac Pro 2007 (2.1)?
on Aug 3, 2011 at 5:59:38 pm

Sounds like I should save the money unless I want the playback advantages in Premier
thanks.

Andy Taplin
Director / Lighting Cameraman
http://www.andytaplin.co.uk


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Walter Soyka
Re: Mercury playback capable card for Mac Pro 2007 (2.1)?
on Aug 4, 2011 at 1:03:38 am

[Andy Taplin] "Sounds like I should save the money unless I want the playback advantages in Premier"

Or put the money into RAM. How many cores do you have in your system, and how much RAM do you have now?

For some other tips, see the Improve performance [link] page in the docs.

Walter Soyka
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Andy Taplin
Re: Mercury playback capable card for Mac Pro 2007 (2.1)?
on Aug 4, 2011 at 8:50:46 am

I've got 8 cores and 16GB of RAM so I'm OK in that area - I can finally use all that RAM now thanks to CS5!

Andy Taplin
Director / Lighting Cameraman
http://www.andytaplin.co.uk


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Michael Szalapski
Re: Mercury playback capable card for Mac Pro 2007 (2.1)?
on Aug 4, 2011 at 1:01:37 pm

Double your RAM, if you can. It's nice to have about 4 GB of RAM per core of your processor.

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Stefan Hinze
Re: Mercury playback capable card for Mac Pro 2007 (2.1)?
on Aug 6, 2011 at 9:05:16 pm

Hey,
with a 2,1 MacPro there is no chance of getting the CUDA.
Sorry to say...
I was luky with the 3,1 and the GTX285. I did my search on the web and the only option was the 285.

(ofTopic: works fine in editing and PP.CS5!!)

...hey there, take a walk, think about it, come back, solve it!


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