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MrVideo
P2 Genie and FCP 5.1.2
on Jan 21, 2007 at 9:11:52 pm


Shane,

I read your review of P2 Genie on kenstone.net. Comes highly rated for P2 users. Is this still a highly rated utility for those with FCP 5.1.2. I believe the P2 import issues were fixed or somehow enhanced in .2

Any thoughts?



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Shane Ross
Re: P2 Genie and FCP 5.1.2
on Jan 21, 2007 at 9:29:03 pm

Well, in my experience, P2 import was BROKEN with FCP 5.1.2. They added nice bells and whistles, but broke the basic function. Read:

http://lfhd.blogspot.com/2007/01/p2-import-with-512-is-busted.html

P2 Genie is simply a must for those shooting with the HVX. Inexpensive and simplifies the whole process. I cannot recommend it enough.



Shane

Littlefrog Post
http://www.lfhd.net


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JeremyG
Re: P2 Genie and FCP 5.1.2
on Jan 21, 2007 at 11:11:03 pm

Try turning off the option to remove redundant frames if you are importing footage shot in Native mode. Also, choose the encompassing folder of the contents folder and not the contents folder itself.

Jeremy


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Shane Ross
Re: P2 Genie and FCP 5.1.2
on Jan 21, 2007 at 9:30:59 pm

I haven't written anything for Ken Stone. Where did you read that?

I have a blog for all my reviews. And I do stuff for the Cow.



Shane

Littlefrog Post
http://www.lfhd.net


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MrVideo
Re: P2 Genie and FCP 5.1.2
on Jan 21, 2007 at 11:23:16 pm

Shane,

Sorry! There was a P2 import article on kenstone.net but that wasn't yours. I probably errored and read it on your web site????



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Shane Ross
Re: P2 Genie and FCP 5.1.2
on Jan 21, 2007 at 11:26:23 pm

You might have read both.

I also have this tutorial:

http://forums.creativecow.net/cgi-bin/page_wrapper.cgi?forumid=8&page=http:...


Shane

Littlefrog Post
http://www.lfhd.net


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Uli Plank
Re: P2 Genie and FCP 5.1.2
on Jan 22, 2007 at 9:02:23 am

Hi Shane,

I'm very curious about the subject as well. Until now (knock on wood!) I didn't experience such problems with FCP 5.1.2. Do you work with folders first copied to the Mac or do you work straight from the camera or P2 card? I'd like to narrow down the issue.

TIA,

Uli

Author of "DVDs gestalten und produzieren", a book on professional DVD-authoring in German.


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msacci
Re: P2 Genie and FCP 5.1.2
on Jan 22, 2007 at 9:13:28 am

I have experience this problem with a firestore. Corrupt clips when trying to import in FCP but they were fine using P2 Log.


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Shane Ross
Re: P2 Genie and FCP 5.1.2
on Jan 22, 2007 at 9:46:43 am

[Uli Plank] "Do you work with folders first copied to the Mac or do you work straight from the camera or P2 card?"

Folders copied off the cards onto hard drives. I'd NEVER import directly off the card. Well, I might, but I'd still want to back up that footage. But in this case it is footage that was backed up to an external drive using the P2 Genie. The original footage stored on a P2 Store.

I'd use FCP 5.1.2 to import and about 3/4 of the clips wouldn't import, because FCP says they are corrupt. They aren't. They import file using FCP 5.1.1.'

Shane

Littlefrog Post
http://www.lfhd.net


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Bryan R
Re: P2 Genie and FCP 5.1.2
on Jan 28, 2007 at 10:44:18 pm

Jesus! This is worrying me. I'm about to start editing a feature that's being shot on the HVX using a firestore at 1080/24p (well, you know, 1080/60i) which starts shooting MONDAY and didn't even realize the changes to the P2 import function. I edited three features successfully last year using version 5.0.4 and the HVX at 720/24p without a single hitch, ever...

PS. thank you Shane for your great popsicle raid solution - I had to throw one together for the added storage requirements of the film being shot 1080 this time around instead of 720 and a huge Graid firewire scare I had on the first feature early last year which made me swear to never edit off of firewire drives again...

1. So is there any solution yet other than putting an old version of FCP back on my G5 tower!?

2. What's the better choice to leave options open, 1080/24p or 1080/24pA? :) Thanks guys...



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Shane Ross
Re: P2 Genie and FCP 5.1.2
on Jan 29, 2007 at 12:53:07 am

[Bryan R] "1. So is there any solution yet other than putting an old version of FCP back on my G5 tower!?"

Only by tossing the current version and all it's components and reinstalling. Unfortunately that will get you to 5.1, not the nice rock steady 5.1.1. This is why I keep versions around. If you can find someone with a copy of 5.1.1 you can copy that application over. It is still your license....

So you used the Popsicle Raid idea...sweet. Officially that makes three people. The guy who designed it (Pat Sheffield), Me, and you.


Shane

Littlefrog Post
http://www.lfhd.net


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JeremyG
Re: P2 Genie and FCP 5.1.2
on Jan 29, 2007 at 2:05:58 am

Bryan, for what it's worth, I have not had any import issues with FCP 5.1.2. I just had to restore a project the other day that was originally cut on FCP 5.0.4. It was roughly I reimported everything with FCP 5.1.2 and everything came i rock solid, except for one clip. The clip had an error saying it was incomplete, I told FCP to try again and it came in. This was 13 8 Gigs cards full of material. Don't worry about it too much, just be cautious. FCP 5.1.2 made some dramatic improvements in p2 import implementation that work nicely. If you are using a P2 store, just make sure every card mounts by going into the disk utility and mounting every thing that says NO NAME if it isn't mounted already.

Jeremy


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Bryan R
Re: P2 Genie and FCP 5.1.2
on Jan 29, 2007 at 5:38:15 pm

Jeremy, great to hear. I'll be giving it a whirl late tonight - thankfully though everyone decided against the slippery slope that is the firestore (which had me greatly worried) and they're just using p2 cards like we've done many times before.

Shane - well count it at 2.5 people :) , I have most of the pieces here for the popsicle raid but I haven't actually assembled it OFFICIALLY yet - I'm still trying to hunt down the y splitters for the power cables (where the hell did you find those and what exactly do they look like) and figure out if there's a way to keep my dvd burner (optical drive) still powered because I'll be burning many dvd's of my editors cut for producers etc. etc. and I'd rather not have to pop the case open and swap power cables just to burn one ...

Any ideas?


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Shane Ross
Re: P2 Genie and FCP 5.1.2
on Jan 29, 2007 at 5:53:44 pm

[Bryan R] "I'm still trying to hunt down the y splitters for the power cables (where the hell did you find those and what exactly do they look like)"

Like this:

http://eshop.macsales.com/item/BELKIN/F2N503/

Read all about it here:

http://lfhd.blogspot.com/2006/09/popsicle-sata.html

I take the power out of the Optical, plug it into the splitter, then one end of the splitter back into the optical, and the other end into ANOTHER splitter, and then add ANOTHER splitter (this is a lot of splitting, but it works) to get it to work with 4 drives. Look on the link for all the stuff you need.


Shane

Littlefrog Post
http://www.lfhd.net


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JeremyG
Re: P2 Genie and FCP 5.1.2
on Jan 29, 2007 at 5:54:24 pm

In my exploits, the p2 workflow is pretty stable, I have no experience with the firestore, and I'm glad you won't have to deal with it either.


This is the power cord you are looking for:

http://www.cdw.com/shop/products/default.aspx?EDC=706076



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Bryan R
Re: P2 Genie and FCP 5.1.2
on Jan 29, 2007 at 6:50:53 pm

SHANE: "I take the power out of the Optical, plug it into the splitter, then one end of the splitter back into the optical, and the other end into ANOTHER splitter, and then add ANOTHER splitter (this is a lot of splitting, but it works) to get it to work with 4 drives"

Ah, I'll take your word for it that it isn't too much of a strain on one power source for all these splits - and ofcourse that's what the cable looks like (smacks forehead and stupid question). I just found them at Newegg and am getting all my components there (my favorite store and they're in socal so shipping is 1-2 days usually). Gotta love it!

Thanks you guys!


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Bryan R
Re: P2 Genie and FCP 5.1.2
on Jan 29, 2007 at 7:52:07 pm

Oh, forgot to mention I'm on a dual core 2.3 g5 so PCIe and I'm going sonnet with just the 4 internal SATA ports (not the 4+4) since I won't be going external anytime soon and if I do, I'll rig up something to run the cables out the back anyways...


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Shane Ross
Re: P2 Genie and FCP 5.1.2
on Jan 29, 2007 at 7:58:10 pm

[Bryan R] "I won't be going external anytime soon and if I do, I'll rig up something to run the cables out the back anyways..."

Like this:

http://lfhd.blogspot.com/2007/01/modified-quiet-tower.html



Shane

Littlefrog Post
http://www.lfhd.net


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