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Joseph W. Bourke
Photoshop on the PC and Motion
on Apr 19, 2012 at 6:38:42 pm

I have a client who is working with FCP7 and Motion 4, and I am sending him files for an on-air look from Photoshop on the PC. It appears that FCP7 doesn't work as well with layers as Motion does, so I've been sending him layered PSD files, but it will only read them from Photoshop CS4 - it flattens anything I send from CS5. I'm assuming that Motion 4's vintage is from before CS5 existed, so it doesn't know how to deal with the layering schema in CS5.

Has anyone dealt with this in a different way? Right now, since I've been designing the look in PS CS5 (and am about to upgrade to CS5.5), I've been having to export to .png layers, then import them back into Photoshop CS4 (there's a batch process for this in Bridge, luckily). It doesn't take long to do, but it's a pain in the neck. Thanks.

Joe Bourke
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Stephen Smith
Re: Photoshop on the PC and Motion
on Apr 19, 2012 at 7:11:06 pm

I've done lots of projects in Photoshop CS5.1 and they come into Motion 4 great. What will not come in is stuff like the layer Styles and filters. You have to "bake" those layers.

Stephen Smith
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Joseph W. Bourke
Re: Photoshop on the PC and Motion
on Apr 19, 2012 at 7:22:46 pm

Thanks Stephen - that's odd - there must be something going on with my client and the way he's importing the files. What I'm sending has nothing in the way of layer effects or anything - just flat raster graphics, and they are coming in flattened - no layers.

Of course my client is under the gun working 14 hour days 7 days a week to get the daily news show edited - there may be some fryage going on.

Joe Bourke
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Stephen Smith
Re: Photoshop on the PC and Motion
on Apr 19, 2012 at 7:27:43 pm

Do you want to post one of the .psd files and I can see if it imports fine?

Stephen Smith
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Joseph W. Bourke
Re: Photoshop on the PC and Motion
on Apr 21, 2012 at 2:31:47 pm

Thanks Stephen -

I'll figure out how to do that and do that.

Joe Bourke
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Stephen Smith
Re: Photoshop on the PC and Motion
on Apr 23, 2012 at 3:29:16 pm

When you respond to my post you will see some icons below the word Message. Click on the icon that looks like a floppy disk and it will let you upload the file to the COW and then you can give me the link to download it.

Stephen Smith
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Joseph W. Bourke
Re: Photoshop on the PC and Motion
on Apr 21, 2012 at 4:33:25 pm

Hi Stephen -

I put the file in the Cow - Files section - it's a .psd. Give me a shout when you get a chance to look at it. Thanks.

Joe Bourke
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Joseph W. Bourke
Re: Photoshop on the PC and Motion
on Apr 21, 2012 at 5:56:59 pm

Stephen -

Something just occurred to me - is it possible that because I was using the 64-bit version of Photoshop CS4, that that could be the cause of the problem? I'm redoing it, bring the layers in to the 32-bit version of CS4, and giving that a try with the client. That's the only variable I can think of - every layer is clean, just bitmaps with no FX at all. By the way - the file I posted for you is the 64-bit version - I sent it before it dawned on me that this could be the problem.

Joe Bourke
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Stephen Smith
Re: Photoshop on the PC and Motion
on Apr 23, 2012 at 3:46:09 pm

Sorry, I checked my e-mails backwards and didn't see that you already posted the PSD. I just brought it into Motion just fine. If you like a can post a screen capture video of me doing it to send to the client so they can see that it works great and maybe how to do it. Just let me know.

Stephen Smith
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Joseph W. Bourke
Re: Photoshop on the PC and Motion
on Apr 23, 2012 at 4:25:56 pm

If you have the time, that would be great Stephen - I can only imagine that it's user error on the client's side. The one file I sent him that he got to work (importing as layers) is in exactly the same format I've sent him since, with just plain vanilla bitmap layers. Thanks so much.

Joe Bourke
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Bourke Media
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Stephen Smith
Re: Photoshop on the PC and Motion
on Apr 23, 2012 at 4:44:37 pm

Here is a link to download the screen grab of the file importing just fine: 4026_snapzproxscreensnapz004email.mov.zip
Hope this helps and best of luck.

Stephen Smith
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Joseph W. Bourke
Re: Photoshop on the PC and Motion
on Apr 24, 2012 at 4:06:41 am

Thanks very much Stephen - I'll put it in my client's Dropbox folder and hope that does the trick - as I'd told you, he's been editing fourteen hour days for a couple of weeks, so he's a bit crispy around the edges. I've sent him links to pages from the Motion 4 help file - maybe a visual will trigger the aha moment.

Joe Bourke
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Bourke Media
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Stephen Smith
Re: Photoshop on the PC and Motion
on Apr 24, 2012 at 2:59:01 pm

Hope it helps, best of luck!

Stephen Smith
Utah Video Productions

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Simon Ubsdell
Re: Photoshop on the PC and Motion
on Apr 23, 2012 at 7:47:02 pm

A very basic question but - does your client understand that the default import of any PSD will be a merged single layer? Unless of course you hold down the option key on import which is when you get the option to choose all layers.

Simon Ubsdell
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Stephen Smith
Re: Photoshop on the PC and Motion
on Apr 23, 2012 at 7:49:46 pm

Simon, I think that is what is going on. When the client sees the video I made they can copy what I did and learn how to bring in a layered PSD.

Stephen Smith
Utah Video Productions

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Joseph W. Bourke
Re: Photoshop on the PC and Motion
on Apr 24, 2012 at 4:10:29 am

Hi Simon -

I hope he's realized that, but as I said to Stephen, he's been cutting shows together at a frantic pace, and is pretty burned. I hope Stephen's visual, along with the Option key reminder from you, will get it working. In the meantime I've used Photoshop's batch layer export to send him .png versions of all the layers so he can build the templates in Motion the hard way. Thanks for the help.

Joe Bourke
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Bourke Media
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