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Todd Terry
The Lion King - A rant about semantics
on Jul 15, 2019 at 7:33:34 pm

This forum has been slow so I thought I'd take the opportunity to rant.

I've just read a blurb where someone, some thing, or some article is referring to Disney's The Lion King as a live action re-make of the original film... for the 9,432nd time.

Arrrrgh.

People, even media-savvy ones, keep saying this over and over and over.... "live action."

Do people not realize that this is every bit as much of an animated film as the one made 25 years ago? Do people not know what "live action" means? Or care? Or do they think someone actually trained real live animals to act, talk, and sing?

People... it's CGI, just very realistic. And despite the hyper-realism it's no less a "cartoon" than the original one. The fact that it looks real doesn't make it so.

Rant over.

T2

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Rich Rubasch
Re: The Lion King - A rant about semantics
on Jul 16, 2019 at 9:35:13 pm

It's PETA....they want people to think that animals are just like humans so we stop eating them. This film will accomplish exactly that....a new generation of young children growing up thinking animals actually talk in the wild and have the same emotions and conversations just like we do.

Now, back to my beef stick.....

Rich Rubasch
Tilt Media Inc.
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Founder/President/Editor/Designer/Animator
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Bob Zelin
Re: The Lion King - A rant about semantics
on Jul 17, 2019 at 12:47:28 am

Wait -
are you telling me that animals do not talk, sing and dance ?
What is WRONG with you ? Of course they do.
The next thing you will tell me is that there is no Santa Claus.

And the next thing you tell me is that people used to actually edit with film - using a splicing block !
Do you think that anyone will actually believe that !

https://www.fastcompany.com/1754288/and-eighth-day-god-created-apple

https://hackernoon.com/on-the-8th-day-god-made-the-iphone-and-he-saw-that-i...

Bob

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Andrew Kimery
Re: The Lion King - A rant about semantics
on Jul 17, 2019 at 3:52:01 pm

[Rich Rubasch] "It's PETA....they want people to think that animals are just like humans so we stop eating them. This film will accomplish exactly that....a new generation of young children growing up thinking animals actually talk in the wild and have the same emotions and conversations just like we do."

It's early, so my sarcasm radar might not be working yet, but over the decades there have already have been truckloads of media to do this. Call of the Wild, Mr. Ed, Homeward Bound, etc.,.,


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Mark Suszko
Re: The Lion King - A rant about semantics
on Jul 24, 2019 at 8:45:14 pm

They describe it like that because they believe the general public is that stupid, that CGI action is too abstract a concept. That's laziness and also pretty contemptuous of the public.


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Mike Cohen
Re: The Lion King - A rant about semantics
on Jul 25, 2019 at 3:34:23 pm

I am pretty sure Mr Ed was indeed a talking horse - why do you think he got his own tv show?

Hollywood has a lot of tricks and talking animals is one of them.


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Andrew Kimery
Re: The Lion King - A rant about semantics
on Jul 25, 2019 at 10:23:46 pm

Just watched the live action "Charlotte's Web" a few days ago. Surprising good.


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Nick Griffin
Re: The Lion King - A rant about semantics
on Jul 31, 2019 at 2:50:26 pm

Well completely run-related but since this is a similar mis-usage of the language:

Every episode of The Late Show with Stephen Colbert has a voiceover that says "Live from tape..." Well it's not.

It should "RECORDED live TO tape..." (which is technically not true because there are often places where you can see an edit has been made). That aside, it SHOULD say "Recorded live to a multi-disk array and played back with minor edits and censorships..." (Before it's archived likely to some form of DLT).

But I guess that's asking for WAY TOO MUCH technical correctness.


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Todd Terry
Re: The Lion King - A rant about semantics
on Jul 31, 2019 at 3:49:17 pm

Haaa... funny, Nick.

I believe she actually says "Live on tape, from the Ed Sullivan Theatre..." which of course is just as wrong.

I don't think they are worrying about technical correctness... rather just saying it to be funny, since it is a total oxymoron.

I for one do miss the first original Colbert show open, with all the tilt-shift shots, which I thought was very well done... here's an uber-long version of it...







T2

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Mark Suszko
Re: The Lion King - A rant about semantics
on Aug 1, 2019 at 3:00:17 am

... and this is why nobody invites Nick to casual parties anymore... :-)


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Todd Terry
Re: The Lion King - A rant about semantics
on Aug 1, 2019 at 3:02:17 am

Now now, Mark.

I think you mean ONE of the reasons.



Wow, I'm in a mood today.

T2

T2

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Mark Suszko
Re: The Lion King - A rant about semantics
on Aug 1, 2019 at 3:16:56 am

We kid 'cause we love, and because every one of us becomes an insufferable nerd when "civilians" get a fact wrong related to what we do.


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