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Todd TerryInternational work - Scotland
by on Mar 1, 2016 at 4:19:15 pm

Hi all...

I've been in film biz for several decades now (gosh I'm old), but this is one thing that I'm a TOTAL and complete newbie at... international work. I've never done one lick of work outside the US, nor ever traveled internationally for anything but pleasure.

Well, we have a client wanting us to shoot for three days in Scotland next month.

So... what are the things that I haven't thought to consider? I'm sure there's a pile of them.

We are planning NOT to travel with any substantial gear. We have found an Edinburgh camera rental source where it looks like we can get everything we need (pretty much exactly replicating the package we normally travel with) for equal-to-or-less-than it would cost us to ship our own... and without any customs worries.

I do have one piece of specialty equipment I do need to take though, our curved slider (it's a very unique piece of gear unavailable for rental). Any special considerations for getting it in and out of the country??

And how about just plain doing the work there? Do we need any special kind of work permits or anything (forgive this extremely newbie question)? Our client is an international company and we are going to an event there with them and all shooting will be done at their venue. This is all part of a bigger project that is being produced and billed here at home.

I'm sure there are tons of things we haven't thought about... but that's why we have good friends like our COW buddies to fill in the holes in our brains :)

Any thoughts?

T2

P.S. Anyone in here in Edinburgh?

T2

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Fantastic Plastic Entertainment, Inc.
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Ned MillerRe: International work - Scotland
by on Mar 1, 2016 at 10:05:46 pm

When you arrive there will often be two lines or at least they want to find out: Business or Tourist? If you don't bring the slider you can breeze through as a tourist. Once you say "business" then there may be a can of worms regarding work visas, permits, etc. For me the slider wouldn't be worth it if I could glide in as a tourist.

Ned Miller
Chicago Videographer
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Todd TerryRe: International work - Scotland
by on Mar 1, 2016 at 10:19:51 pm

[Ned Miller] "For me the slider wouldn't be worth it if I could glide in as a tourist."

I hear ya... but actually this client LOVES our slider (and it's a special curved slider that we designed)... it's pretty much why they keep hiring us, and was specifically mentioned by them for this shoot. And it is, sadly, not something that we can rent on location.

T2

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Fantastic Plastic Entertainment, Inc.
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Tom SeftonRe: International work - Scotland
by on Mar 3, 2016 at 1:05:51 pm

Hi Todd,

Im 2hrs south of Edinburgh in York. If you get stuck for any equipment or need anything then just give me a shout and I can help you out. As has been suggested, tell your airline and you will need to declare the item for use with filming. Use hard cases for it as airline staff won't understand its fragile nature!

Most hire companies should deliver to location, but check prices for this, and also check if any of the speciality equipment you are hiring is available from someone else nearby if you have any failures. Presuming you are near(ish) to Edinburgh its worth checking as replacements might not be as instantaneous as around London, Leeds or Manchester.

Enjoy the whiskey, steer clear of haggis and try and see some of the countryside. If you want to get in touch privately I can recommend some restaurants/pubs around Edinburgh for you.

Cheers!

Tom

tom@pollenstudio.co.uk

Co-owner at Pollen Studio
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Todd TerryRe: International work - Scotland
by on Mar 3, 2016 at 7:50:46 pm

Hey thanks Tom!...

If/when this comes through (still waiting to hear the final "go" from the client), I'll be sure to give you a private shout.

The warning about haggis was not necessary. At all.

T2

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Tom SeftonRe: International work - Scotland
by on Mar 4, 2016 at 10:50:45 am

You can get hold of a deep fried, battered Mars bar in Scotland.

Right/Wrong....

Co-owner at Pollen Studio
http://www.pollenstudio.co.uk


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Jim WilcoxRe: International work - Scotland
by on Mar 9, 2016 at 6:52:26 pm

Todd,

What about shipping the slider separately, perhaps even have the company you are working for ship direct to the location. Its there when you arrive and you can be the tourist...


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Todd TerryRe: International work - Scotland
by on Mar 9, 2016 at 6:56:11 pm

Thanks Jim... yeah we've considered shipping it. I wasn't sure if that would run into more customs issues etc or less than traveling with it... I need to investigate that more.

T2

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Fantastic Plastic Entertainment, Inc.
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Ned MillerRe: International work - Scotland
by on Mar 10, 2016 at 1:06:03 am

Hi Todd,

Can you provide a link to a piece of video illustrating what this curved slider offers in jazzing up a shot? Isn't it what we used to call curved track in the old days? If so, that'd be easy to rent, as in a light weight door way dolly.

Ned Miller
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Todd TerryRe: International work - Scotland
by on Mar 10, 2016 at 1:54:48 am

There's nothing magic to it, and it's not at all earth shaking... its just like a regular slider except it curves, at exactly the same radius as Matthews curved track. It lets you make short arcing dolly moves, but without a dolly. It's great for interviews and talking heads but when you don't have room for a real dolly or room to lay track (or want to make a big production out of things).

And yep, you can get the exact same results with a dolly. But that takes a dolly, track, dolly wheels, a dolly grip, time to set it up, and most importantly room to do it.

You can literally set up a arcing dolly shot in 30 seconds with one person and one little 10lb piece of equipment in even cramped quarters.

I started to say I haven't laid dolly track in a long time... but that's not true, I actually did last week. But that was straight track. I haven't laid curved track in forever. Most of the dolly arcs that I ever want to do are three feet or less, so it's a million times easier to do with the slider.

T2

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Tom SeftonRe: International work - Scotland
by on Mar 10, 2016 at 10:51:28 am

Well, if you decide it is too much of a pain in the arse to ship/bring with you, I have a nice tripod mountable slider that can take heavyweight cameras that you can hire - you could just bring a nice box of lenses and I'll supply the rest!

Co-owner at Pollen Studio
http://www.pollenstudio.co.uk


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Ned MillerRe: International work - Scotland
by on Mar 11, 2016 at 1:38:25 pm

Oh! I didn't mean an old fashion, heavy metal dolly like an Elemack. There are now many lightweight dollies that ride on roller blade wheels on plastic curved track. Mine rides on two 8' PVC pipes and there are options for curved, that's what I meant.

Ned Miller
Chicago Videographer
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Ned MillerRe: International work - Scotland
by on Mar 11, 2016 at 1:48:43 pm

There's a lot of curved portable cheap dollies like this below. Probably something for rent locally:

http://nofilmschool.com/2013/02/snaptrack-cinerails-light-portable-curved-d...

Ned Miller
Chicago Videographer
http://www.nedmiller.com
www,bizvideo.com


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Todd TerryRe: International work - Scotland
by on Mar 11, 2016 at 5:51:06 pm

Yeah, I'm intimately familiar with all of that, and use some of that equipment all the time. I even have a big wooden form that I built in my shop that we use to make curved PVC track (it holds the pipe at the perfect curve while it is heated with heat guns). Perfectly bending PVC is a much harder job than most people would probably imagine, as we learned through much trial and error over the last few years. Key word being "perfectly," which is important.

We also use rubber flex track when needed.

But this particular job though, for a variety of reasons (some simple, some complex), is an ideal job for the curved slider that we have. I appreciate the suggestions, but we are really not looking for any equipment alternatives to what we have already decided will work best for this job.

I'm really only concerned about what hoops we have to jump through to get it in and out of the country. We'll gladly do the jumping, as this is what we are committed to using and in this instance it is well worth it.... I just wanted to be a bit prepared for how many jumps we have to do (and how high).

Thanks all.

T2

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Todd Terry
Creative Director
Fantastic Plastic Entertainment, Inc.
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Bob ColeRe: International work - Scotland
by on Apr 7, 2016 at 1:15:51 am

[Todd Terry] "I'm really only concerned about what hoops we have to jump through to get it in and out of the country"

I hope this advice is not too late.

The warnings about coming into Scotland on business are very well taken. I tried doing that, and had to spend two hours convincing them that I wasn't taking jobs away from native Scots.

otoh... by the time I got to the rental car counter, the little Ford Focus I'd reserved was no longer available... nor the next automatic transmission up... so I got to drive around Scotland for a week in a new Mercedes Benz, for the price of the Focus.

Good luck. Ship the slider.

Bob C


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Todd TerryRe: International work - Scotland
by on Apr 7, 2016 at 2:21:11 am

[Bob Cole] " I got to drive around Scotland for a week in a new Mercedes Benz, for the price of the Focus."

Nice!! I'll one up you though... once on a shoot in Vegas the casino hotel was overbooked and gave our room away in error. We had to make do with the "chairman's" penthouse suite, Frank's old digs. Probably 3000 square feet, full tacky Old Vegas so anything that wasn't mirrored was gold plated... several bedrooms, a half dozen baths, living room, bar, balcony jacuzzi... I kept imagining Sammy playing at the grand piano that was in the living room. Ahhhh.... Sadly they only put us up there for one day/night before sorting out their mistake :(

As for Scotland, looks like everything is worked out there for next week's shoot, thanks to fellow bovine Tom Sefton and his assistance there. The COW rules!

T2

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