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Olly Lawer
Alternative to Vimeo for business use
on Jun 27, 2009 at 12:00:44 pm

Hi,

I wondered if anyone could recommend an alternative to Vimeo as they don't allow you to use their site for business use! Which is a real shame because the quality of the upload from QT to flash is fantastic and it streams great.

I want to be able to upload and convert to flash with all the great quality and compressing capabilities of Vimeo and be able to give my clients the HTML embedding code, plus get the stats like Vimeo gives you.

Any ideas?

Thanks


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David Roth Weiss
Re: Alternative to Vimeo for business use
on Jun 27, 2009 at 1:31:50 pm

The Vimeo fine print does say "no business use," however, they are simply trying to discourage big companies with millions of users from overwhelming their servers. If you're doing work for a Fortune 500 company and they want to use Vimeo's servers in lieu of paying for a dedicated service, that's one thing, but if you're working for a small business that another matter.

David Roth Weiss
Director/Editor
David Weiss Productions, Inc.
Los Angeles

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Rich Rubasch
Re: Alternative to Vimeo for business use
on Jun 28, 2009 at 1:37:24 am

Take a look at BrightCove brightcove.com They are the big enchilada of this space for businesses.

Rich Rubasch
Tilt Media



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Olly Lawer
Re: Alternative to Vimeo for business use
on Jun 28, 2009 at 10:19:50 am

Brightcove look really good. Although they don't mention their prices, which makes me think they are expensive?


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Olly Lawer
Re: Alternative to Vimeo for business use
on Jun 28, 2009 at 9:54:27 am

David,

Thanks for this. I'm still a little concerned by their caveat to pull the videos at any time. One of the projects I am working on requires embedding on many organisations websites and it they remove the video it will look really bad on my company.

Thanks


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Franklin McMahon
Re: Alternative to Vimeo for business use
on Jun 28, 2009 at 3:17:54 pm


A good rule of thumb is any content on a "free" site (YouTube, Facebook, Vimeo, etc) can usually be pulled at any time and for any reason. And the small print typically also says they can re-purpose the content.

I have recommended Libsyn/Wizzard for storage and good stats but also look at domain hosting places such as Dreamhost.com who have unlimited bandwidth. You pay a small amount for unmetered bandwidth and a secure server and never have to worry about anything.

Frank

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Tim Wilson
Re: Alternative to Vimeo for business use
on Jun 28, 2009 at 5:03:20 pm

Oh, for the love of peat! (And Bessie does love her peat!)

Here's the one I recommend:

  • Free hosting
  • Unlimited bandwidth
  • Immediate HD streaming (actually, up to 900 pixels wide for now, with 1080 coming soon)
  • No recompression if you follow super-basic formatting (H.264, etc.)
  • Embed code
  • Guaranteed no reuse
  • Guaranteed no pulling except for written copyright/trademark protest
  • Extremely well-established presence (not going out of business)
  • Extremely reliable network
  • Secure
  • Free support


Did I mention free, unlimited-bandwidth, HD with no recompression, embeddable, no reuse or unexplained disappearance, fully secure, on a reliable network owned by a reliable business that offers free support?

Allow me to introduce reels.creativecow.net. It provides

  • Free hosting
  • Unlimited bandwidth
  • Immediate HD streaming
  • No recompression
  • Embed code
  • No reuse
  • No disappearing
  • 14 years in business
  • Less downtime than Google email!
  • Highly responsive to customer input
  • Secure
  • Free support



Did I mention free, unlimited bandwidth, non-recompressed HD, immediate streaming, guaranteed no reuse or unexplained disappearance, a secure, reliable network from an established company with free support?

That's right folks, reels.creativecow.net.

Reels.creativecow.net is your home for gorgeous HD streaming, fully embeddable, from one of the industry's most established companies and most reliable networks. Best of all, you maintain complete control of your clips! No recompression in most cases, and guaranteed no reuse at any time.

What's that you say? You'd like to post more than your reel? No problem! Reels.creativecow.net has sections for short films, trailers, commercials, music videos and more.

You can even tie these directly to a profile that includes your full contact information, resume, and publicly-posted industry expertise.

All of this is provided with free support, and active solicitation for improvements to serve you even better!

How can you find reels.creativecow.net? JUST LOOK UP. IT'S THERE IN THE FREAKING ORANGE BAR AT THE TOP OF EVERY PAGE!!! RIGHT THERE IN THE MIDDLE!! WHERE IT SAYS REELS!!!

Don't forget! That's reels.creativecow.net. Keep your work beautiful. Keep it free. Keep it safe. Keep it YOURS.

Reels.creativecow.net.


Are we through here?

(Any of you copywriters feel free to punch this up. This is off the top of my head, which is fuzzier than usual this morning.)


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Gary Weyel
Re: Alternative to Vimeo for business use
on Nov 2, 2011 at 4:46:16 pm

Thanks for the tip! Just uploaded my first video to Creative Cow, we'll see how it all goes.


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Ron Lindeboom
Re: Alternative to Vimeo for business use
on Jun 28, 2009 at 6:02:24 pm

[Olly Lawer] "One of the projects I am working on requires embedding on many organisations websites and it they remove the video it will look really bad on my company."

If you read Tim Wilson's post in this thread, you can find a FREE hosting service that will support unlimited (up to) 900 pixel wide (including 720p HD) 100MB files that can be embedded and won't be pulled unless a lawyer contacts our lawyer for copyright infringement -- or if you, as the owner, want it pulled.

We have a pipe that is as big as General Motors and many major multi-national corporations. Feel free to use some of it. We won't mind at all. ;o)

Free.

You'll find it, as Timmie says, in the orange bar at the top of the screen.

It's called our REELS section.

Best regards,

Ron Lindeboom

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Perfection is achieved, not when there is nothing more to add, but when there is nothing left to take away.
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Tim Wilson
Re: Alternative to Vimeo for business use
on Jun 28, 2009 at 6:36:06 pm

[Ron Lindeboom] "We have a pipe that is as big as General Motors"

And unlike them, are in outstanding financial shape. We aren't going anywhere. :-)



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Ian Snead
Re: Alternative to Vimeo for business use
on Mar 16, 2010 at 10:32:46 am

http://vzaar.com welcomes all vimeo users who are looking for an alternative as we provide the same high quality and unlike vimeo we are a commercial video platform. We do love vimeo and recommend them to many people who are using video for creative purposes.



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Quentin Block
Re: Alternative to Vimeo for business use
on May 12, 2010 at 7:46:15 pm

Hi Ron,
Would it be OK to post a bunch of different short clips, rather than an edited reel? I'd like to post several individual pieces and also link to/embed the clips on my website that I'm working on. Don't want to do anything that violates the COW.
Vimeo's compression/recompression is NASTY for clean, fast moving motion gfx.
I didn't see a place/category on COW's videos/reels for general motion graphic clips - interstitials, show ID's, promo's etc.


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Ron Lindeboom
Re: Alternative to Vimeo for business use
on May 12, 2010 at 9:00:14 pm

[Quentin Block] "Would it be OK to post a bunch of different short clips, rather than an edited reel? I'd like to post several individual pieces and also link to/embed the clips on my website that I'm working on. Don't want to do anything that violates the COW."

You can post whatever you like, it doesn't have to be editor or cinematographer reels. We have plenty of clips, animations, etc.

Best,

Ron Lindeboom


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Quentin Block
Re: Alternative to Vimeo for business use
on May 12, 2010 at 9:24:37 pm

Thank you for the reply.
Is there a preference (from the COW perspective) for categories where random motion gfx clips (like interstitials, show packages, etc.) should be posted - those that don't fall into commercials, short films, etc.?

Also I'm wondering if there is a list of preferred specs from COW for videos that users will upload...
Thanks again!
QB


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Ron Lindeboom
Re: Alternative to Vimeo for business use
on May 12, 2010 at 11:06:10 pm

Just put them under the catch-all of "Demo Reels," that is what everyone else does.

Ron


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Quentin Block
Re: Alternative to Vimeo for business use
on May 13, 2010 at 12:00:28 am

Great, thanks.
Are there settings/specs that you (or anyone) recommend(s) for optimal playback on the COW?
I'd be using Compressor to format the clips...
Cheers,
QB


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Robin Frank
Re: Alternative to Vimeo for business use
on Sep 10, 2010 at 2:38:06 pm

I would love to know what you decided to do and how it worked out. I am facing the exact same concerns right now. Thank you.


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Mike Cohen
Re: Alternative to Vimeo for business use
on Sep 10, 2010 at 4:36:33 pm

I certainly support the use of Creative COW's reels section for hosting your own reel or other sample videos, however you obviously could not host proprietary video content for a paying client on a free service that is open to the public.

I am doing a trial of Sorenson 360 right now - it seems to work nicely. We also use Wowza server which works very well.
Prices on both of these are reasonable.

Mike Cohen


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Abraham Chaffin
Re: Alternative to Vimeo for business use
on Sep 10, 2010 at 7:12:48 pm

We just added the ability to upload videos as private videos.

These videos will only be able to be viewed by a direct link that you can give your clients. They will also be viewable by you on your profile when you are logged in.

This should be a good feature for people trying to do what you are speaking of. Uploading videos that will only be viewed by individuals you select.

Abraham


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Mike Cohen
Re: Alternative to Vimeo for business use
on Sep 10, 2010 at 9:56:31 pm

interesting. Can these videos be viewed on Apple devices?


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Abraham Chaffin
Re: Alternative to Vimeo for business use
on Sep 10, 2010 at 10:02:28 pm

We re-encode all our videos for iPad, iPhone, Android and other mobile devices. And yes they will even play on your Mac too =o

Abraham


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Mark Mallett
Re: Alternative to Vimeo for business use
on Oct 20, 2010 at 8:40:30 am

Hi there,

The service and quality looks great. But how do I change the poster frame/thumbnail of each video?

Thanks,
Mark


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Ronald Lindeboom
Re: Alternative to Vimeo for business use
on Oct 24, 2010 at 2:48:47 pm

When you are logged-in, you can now change the poster frame associated with your video. A link appears on the clip (to the clip's owner only), when they are logged-in.

Best regards,

Ronald Lindeboom
CEO, Creative COW LLC
Publisher, Creative COW Magazine

Creativity is a process wherein the student and the teacher are located in the same individual.

"Incompetence has never prevented me from plunging in with enthusiasm."
- Woody Allen


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Mark Mallett
Re: Alternative to Vimeo for business use
on Oct 24, 2010 at 4:47:18 pm

That's great, thank you!


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long tran
Re: Alternative to Vimeo for business use
on Sep 28, 2011 at 9:52:43 am

Hi,

How to embed Creative Cow on my website to promote my movie? Your help is much appreciated. Thanks.

Regards,

Long


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