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Rafael Amador
Apple logos
on May 14, 2009 at 10:46:40 am

Hello friends of the B&M Forum,
I would like to use in my website some logos mostly of software and some of the equipment I own: Final cut, XDCAM, Manfrotto or whatever.
What kind of restriction do I have?
I know all those logos are registered and belong to the proprietors of the brand.
Do I have, as an user/owner, any right to use them?
Thanks in advance for your help.
Rafael



http://www.nagavideo.com


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walter biscardi
Re: Apple logos
on May 14, 2009 at 12:00:39 pm

I wouldn't unless you have permission from the companies. I used to have some logos on my site from Pinnacle and Medéa but I had permission to use them at the time. Now I don't bother as I don't want folks to think I'm a reseller of these products. We just have an equipment list page instead that details everything we use in our shop.

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Rafael Amador
Re: Apple logos
on May 14, 2009 at 6:43:48 pm

Hey Walter,
Thanks for the info.
I have not any kind of permission so I will give up the idea of the logos.
No need of problems with the big guys.
rafael

http://www.nagavideo.com


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Zane Barker
Re: Apple logos
on May 15, 2009 at 2:19:59 am

Honistly why do you need them there anyway. Potential customers care more about what you can do not what you do it with.

There are no "technical solutions" to your "artistic problems".
Don't let technology get in the way of your creativity!



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Rafael Amador
Re: Apple logos
on May 17, 2009 at 3:54:20 am

Hi Arnie,
Thanks a million for the links.
At least Apple have a channel to demand the permission to use their logos.

[Zane Barker] "Honistly why do you need them there anyway. Potential customers care more about what you can do not what you do it with. "
Zane,
This is not the USA neither Europe.
You could be the best film-maker-producer over there and starve here.
I guess that in the USA or Europe nobody advertise "We only work with licensed software".
This here is an asset. Mostly when some of your customers are organizations that should be fighting piracy.
I believe I have the only legal copy of FC in few hundreds miles around, so I have to tell to my customers.
And they have to pay for that:-)
rafael

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walter biscardi
Re: Apple logos
on May 17, 2009 at 4:00:33 am

[Rafael Amador] "I believe I have the only legal copy of FC in few hundreds miles around, so I have to tell to my customers.
And they have to pay for that:-) "


If that's truly the case, then you should be reporting anyone and everyone you know who uses the software illegally. I have filed multiple reports as I have no issues at all reporting illegal software use. I pay for all my software so why I should I turn the other way when someone else doesn't?

http://siia.net/piracy/report/Default.aspx?gclid=CJ6h5f26wpoCFQFqxwod7RY7rQ



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Rafael Amador
Re: Apple logos
on May 17, 2009 at 4:49:59 am

Hi Walter,
Sorry, I wrote something wrong.
I said that probably my FC is the only LEGAL copy around. I should have said is probably the only PURCHASED copy.
There are hundreds of "No for sale" and "educational" copies of FC around. Not necessarily illegal copies.
Walter, we can not compare the situation.
Sincerely I don't think that Apple, Adobe or any other company are concerned for some body that use their applications to make 300 US$ a month.
Some times I think that Apple release those copies to be used in those countries.
People around here can not pay the software (Would you spend six months of your wages to pay FC?)
but at least they have to buy a Mac to run it.
Other companies they have an even more strange policies selling their products. Double price in developing countries than in wealthy countries.
I think that many pirates of today are fair users of tomorrow. Nobody likes to run an infectious copy of a program when you are feeding your family with him.
A subject to write few books about.
rafael



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Ron Lindeboom
Re: Apple logos
on May 17, 2009 at 3:12:07 pm

Rafael is from Loas. And Rafael is probably not exaggerating when he says that he has the only purchased and authorized copy of Final Cut within hundreds of miles of him.

I have talked with many software companies that tell me that in many countries of the world, they see DVDs for sale in the marketplaces that have their entire software line for sale for very little money, everyday. There is nothing they can do about it because the laws are different and cultural mores also make it nearly impossible to enforce any kind of protections for their work.

Also, as Rafael points out, it would cost most people in his country six months to a year's salary to buy Final Cut Studio, so they don't. The lucky ones can afford a computer.

Life is not as easy in many of the world's poorest countries, when compared to the United States, Europe, Canada, and many of the other more affluent nations.

You do good work, Rafael, and I have to take my hat off to you for not taking the easy way out in your own business.

Ron Lindeboom


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Arnie Schlissel
Re: Apple logos
on May 17, 2009 at 10:15:32 pm

[Ron Lindeboom] "I have talked with many software companies that tell me that in many countries of the world, they see DVDs for sale in the marketplaces that have their entire software line for sale for very little money, everyday."

When I was in Moscow in the summer of '06, I saw kiosks and storefronts that sold software, movie DVDs & music CDs. Most were bootlegs, but you could pay more for a "legit" copy in most of these places. I also saw a vending machine full of bootleg DVDs in an airport.

Arnie

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Rafael Amador
Re: Apple logos
on May 18, 2009 at 5:09:47 am

Dear Ron,
Thanks for your encouraging words.
I don't want that people think about here like a kind of "Law less land'.
Almost everything is new and it will need a certain time to pace with rest of the world.
Working here can not be more challenging neither more rewarding. is like going back to the old times. No means, but tons of decision and imagination. A subject for a short article for the COW. i may have time to write it during the next few months. rainy season.
Best,
rafael


http://www.nagavideo.com


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Brendan Coots
Re: Apple logos
on May 18, 2009 at 4:48:12 am

I agree on the piracy issue. A lot of kids show up in the After Effects forum who are clearly using pirated software and I want to throttle them. They've obviously never made something that took a lot of work and had to watch people steal it. They sure would be singing a different tune if the roles were reversed!

Brendan Coots

Splitvision Digital

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Arnie Schlissel
Re: Apple logos
on May 15, 2009 at 4:05:49 am

"The Apple technology web badges have been developed to enable you to endorse Apple and its products in the creation or delivery of content on the World Wide Web. Use these badges only if your web site uses or was created using Apple-branded hardware or software. Please follow these guidelines carefully. In doing so, you reinforce Apple’s corporate and brand identities, while reaping the benefits of those identities."

Which is from this page.

And you might want to read this page on trademarks, too.

Arnie

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