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Pattie Olson
CD/DVD printer
on Feb 10, 2008 at 6:16:57 pm

I would like to know what brand of CD/DVD printers any of you use. I've been using a manuel Epson that works great for my small projects. I'm looking at some new projects that will require 50+ copies and would like some feedback on the automated models. Are they reliable? Do they jam up often? I've considered using a duplication house, but for 50-100 copies...I feel I have the time to take care of that and the extra income would be helpful.

Thanks in advance for your opinions.

Pattie


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walter biscardi
Re: CD/DVD printer
on Feb 10, 2008 at 6:38:22 pm

The Epsons are flat out the best CD/DVD printers we use.

My experience with the DiscMakers Medley:
http://blogs.creativecow.net/node/402

My experience with the Primera Bravo II:
http://blogs.creativecow.net/node/330

We still have the Medley here and use it to replicate and print just simple black and white stuff. Their sales support is pretty bad and I just did not want to deal with them any more. Kept promising to call back and never did so I would go past the 30 days I had to return it.

It's a decent replicator and simple black and white printer. Prints less than decent in color. For high quality color, use the Epson.


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Timothy J. Allen
Re: CD/DVD printer
on Feb 10, 2008 at 7:52:36 pm

Sorry to hear that your experience with the Primera Bravo II wasn't what you expected or hoped for on a Mac, Walter.

We just got a Bravo II in last week - running it on Windows XP. It was easy to set up and so far, it's been working very well.
I'm so glad they don't have that long arm that sucks up the discs anymore. The new mechanisms for actually moving the discs seem to be less likely to malfunction than the old style robotic arms.





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walter biscardi
Re: CD/DVD printer
on Feb 10, 2008 at 8:08:09 pm

[Timothy J. Allen] "Sorry to hear that your experience with the Primera Bravo II wasn't what you expected or hoped for on a Mac, Walter."

Yeah, they really need to remove that whole thing on their website about it working on a Mac because it doesn't work properly.

Walter Biscardi, Jr.
Biscardi Creative Media
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Steve Wargo
Re: CD/DVD printer
on Feb 10, 2008 at 8:33:50 pm

We use a VinPower tower for burning and a Bravo Pro printer for printing. Some people want to buy combos and that's fine but they take longer to do both jobs. Burning is fast but full color printing takes almost 2 minutes.

Here is a link to a company here in Phoenix that runs some pretty good deals on equipment. They are also a replicator company.

http://www.cdrom2go.com/product-buy.asp?D=EQ&S=S0196&C=C0471&N=1


Steve Wargo
Tempe, Arizona
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Steve Wargo
Re: CD/DVD printer
on Feb 10, 2008 at 8:39:11 pm

http://www.cdrom2go.com/product-buy.asp?D=EQ&S=S0196&C=C0383&N=1

combo units

Our Bravo Pro printer has been very dependable

Steve Wargo
Tempe, Arizona
It's a dry heat!

Sony HDCAM F-900 & HDW-2000/1 deck
5 Final Cut (not quite PRO) systems
Sony HVR-M25 HDV deck
2-Sony EX-1.


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Rich Rubasch
Re: CD/DVD printer
on Feb 10, 2008 at 11:10:48 pm

I have two Bravo SE on a Mac and they are great. I have been running them for about 8 months and when they doubled the capacity of the ink cartridge that solved a lot of the problems.

The only issue i have is the printer driver. No way to kick up saturation or color correct before printing, other than a quick trip to Photoshop and back.

The Bravo SE was sold as a bundle with the Primera DUP7 duplicator tower. Everything has been chugging along just fine.

For the record all our suites have the Epson R800 printers and I haven't used mine for printing to disc since we got the Bravo's. They are available on the network so we can print from any edit bay.

Rich Rubasch
Tilt Media



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Mark Suszko
Re: CD/DVD printer
on Feb 11, 2008 at 3:39:00 am

We LOVE the Bravo Primera Pro. It worked perfect with our FCP workstation right out of the box, no messing around at all. When we moved it to work off a PC tower, we had some teething troubles with the PC based software, but it eventually worked fine there too. Sorry about your experience Walter, but the Bravo is very popular for a reason; it works for most people that buy it.

For batch jobs bigger than 100, we generally use a Microboards-built, 10- drive dubbing tower and a separate Rimage thermal-based B&W or color thermal printer with robot arm. The Microboards tower is scary fast and self-contained, no needing a PC hooked to it. But then again it's not also a disc printer.

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walter biscardi
Re: CD/DVD printer
on Feb 11, 2008 at 11:11:31 am

[Mark Suszko] "Sorry about your experience Walter, but the Bravo is very popular for a reason; it works for most people that buy it."

Unfortunately for us, the Tech Support was completely useless and their only suggestion was to get a Windows XP machine. It simply would not print correctly on their Mac Drivers off a new iMac. Glad it's working for you, I would never purchase or recommend them again.

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Ken Summerall
Re: CD/DVD printer
on Feb 11, 2008 at 2:26:56 pm

I have no idea what your budget is but we use a Teac p-55 with an autoloader. It is a thermal re-transfer printer and believe it or not costs are about the same to print as inkjets. We did a cost analysis before we purchased it and there was only a few cents difference and that was based on using thermal discs. Teac has now released a ribbon that will print on inkjet discs as well (they say any disc, but that has not proved to be exactly true for us) and that makes the costs about even.

There is a learning curve and the initial expense is high, but for a print that virtually indestructible it is amazing.




Ken Summerall
Wellwater Productions, Inc.
"A non-profit production company specializing in media with a mission."


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Pattie Olson
Re: CD/DVD printer
on Feb 11, 2008 at 5:12:42 pm

Thanks for all the responses, opinions and links. I've never gone into the blog area before, so thank you for the link to that also. I appreciate everyone's input and now I feel I can compare equipment armed with good info based on real experience.

Thanks again,

Pattie


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Brendan Coots
Re: CD/DVD printer
on Feb 12, 2008 at 11:28:19 pm

This thread is a little old now, but I wanted to throw my hat in the ring because our spankin' new Nexis 100 arrived yesterday, and I can confirm that the print quality is bordering on laughable. I pulled in a 300dpi photo to test it out, and the result was barely better than what you might see coming out of a dot matrix printer. Horrid.

The unit is obviously a prefab that resellers buy wholesale and rebrand, as the Nexis 100 is the exact same machine as the DiscMakers offering. Avoid both.

Brendan Coots

Splitvision Digital

http://www.splitvisiondigital.com


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walter biscardi
Re: CD/DVD printer
on Feb 12, 2008 at 11:41:34 pm

[Ken Summerall] "There is a learning curve and the initial expense is high, but for a print that virtually indestructible it is amazing."

High quality color printing too? Are you printing full four color photo images or just black and white or just text? We have full four color photo images that are part of every design for this documentary series we're doing. Even on 4800dpi setting with a 300dpi image, the DiscMakers does not print well.

But if the thermal unit can re-create high quality, laser printer quality, I might have to look at that unit.

Walter Biscardi, Jr.
Biscardi Creative Media
HD and SD Production for Broadcast and Independent Productions.

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