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Harry Snell
How to improve & tweak my audio for YT - audition newbie
on Jul 3, 2020 at 2:58:57 pm

Hey guys, I'm new to Audition and trying to work out the essential sound panel.

Can someone give me some advice on improving my YT video audio?

I've recorded a video to show how fat I've got with it...

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1gt5B3XAyDWNvUH8D2hRRrnVcSc1ctdqF/view?usp=...

thanks :)


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Andy Ford
Re: How to improve & tweak my audio for YT - audition newbie
on Jul 4, 2020 at 3:15:24 am

The Multitrack editing area is a non-destructive workspace. When you enter waveform view, it becomes a destructive workspace and allows effects that require processing.

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Harry Snell
Re: How to improve & tweak my audio for YT - audition newbie
on Jul 6, 2020 at 9:14:27 pm

That makes sense. Thanks Andy!


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Chris Wright
Re: How to improve & tweak my audio for YT - audition newbie
on Jul 4, 2020 at 5:22:25 am

-Try using dereverb before compression

-To match all clips in multitrack view:
Hold down CMD or CTRL and select each clip in the multitrack, then go to Clip - Match clip loudness BT1770 -23lufs.

in effects rack, i'd use in this order:
1. set all clips to same volume -23 LUFS
2. EQ out 200hz mic issues
3. dereverb and noise reduction
4 multiband compression 2:1 voice, 3:1 music, 4:1 sfx
5. EQ again for vocal clarity 1150khz raise.
6. hard limiter
7. LUFS -14 for youtube

You can also make group effects presets that auto-load all effects in a rack all at once.
You can also route each track to a bus to which takes longer to setup, but is very powerful. See link.

bussing
https://helpx.adobe.com/audition/using/applying-effects-multitrack-editor.h...

auto-match
https://helpx.adobe.com/audition/kb/editing-using-essential-sound-panel-aud...


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Harry Snell
Re: How to improve & tweak my audio for YT - audition newbie
on Jul 6, 2020 at 9:14:10 pm

Thanks, that really helps :)


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Harry Snell
Re: How to improve & tweak my audio for YT - audition newbie
on Jul 7, 2020 at 4:01:17 pm

Hi again Chris, I had a go at implementing your suggestions but got a bit confused...I talked it through here:

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1vipuH0WpPjZsquWEw5Y7mcvVdeRQSL13/view?usp=...


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Chris Wright
Re: How to improve & tweak my audio for YT - audition newbie
on Jul 7, 2020 at 4:53:24 pm

1st Qstn is a good one.
It's because LUFS BT1770's algorithm uses time itself as part of the equation to determine how loud to adjust. When used on the match clip using multiple small clips, 5 sec. long, it will average using only 5 sec. see 6. below.
2. ah, ignore lufs in effects rack(doesn't exist). that effect is in match loudness bar and you do this already in multitrack view as first step. (I was thinking of RX's interface, sry)
3. parametric EQ is what I use to drag down the muddy sounding values
4. human voice sounds clearer at 1150hz raised 1.5 dB db using parametric EQ.
5. you can use multiband compressor's built in brickwall limiter instead of a separate hard limiter. either's fine.(or you can use the default BT1770 true peak limiting feature and skip this step.)
6. BT1770 When used over the whole combined sound, it will use the whole timeline to calculate average perceived loudness instead of only 5 sec.(this makes it sound more professional)
Note: -You will have to render out your timeline, import back in, to drag into the match loudness box.
RX is a little more straightforward for me, so you'll have to forgive me.


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Harry Snell
Re: How to improve & tweak my audio for YT - audition newbie
on Jul 10, 2020 at 8:38:43 am

Thanks Chris, I've tried to follow it as well is possible. This is what I have so far:

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1A10vWW-q2OmQ8JCMhYTJS9kqcFbYh4Uk/view?usp=...


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Chris Wright
Re: How to improve & tweak my audio for YT - audition newbie
on Jul 10, 2020 at 5:23:50 pm

there's a lot of reverb in there still and some chirping artifacts or something. that's why it sounds funky.

1. matching lufs in multitrack will only affect by length of each clip.
2. that's a big difference if the final track rendered out is long, as BS. 1770 will average the loudness across the whole clip.
3. yea 200hz just like you did is fine. most audio gets muddy in that area, so this frees up audio power in the speaker.(how far and fast the diaphram can move)
4.1150 hz, yea, that's fine
5.multiband compression, lower the sliders on the parts that you want to stand out. see the youtube video at bottom.
6. EQ again would only be needed twice if using default compression because the more expensive ones can compress per frequency instead of a large selection. Compression is where the magic happens to fix thin audio.
7.you have to render the mixdown out of multitrack, so you have a single track for final lufs so it averages the loudness of the whole clip, not individual clips.

I recommend this youtube channel that goes into extreme detail, why, how, where, you use things like compression to make audio sound better. Also, all his videos are a good, free intro into Audio Mastering.







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Harry Snell
Re: How to improve & tweak my audio for YT - audition newbie
on Jul 13, 2020 at 2:32:40 pm

Thank you! I'm giving it a go and watching the video. I really appreciate the help.

The annoying this at the moment is having to export and re-import to match whole clip loudness. Surely Adobe would have thought of a way to treat a bunch of clips as one by now?


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Harry Snell
Re: How to improve & tweak my audio for YT - audition newbie
on Jul 16, 2020 at 12:36:50 pm

I've been playing around with this for a few hours now and although I think the output is better than the original, I feel it still sounds pretty terrible haha.

I've done a half-half video for a comparison of the sound change:





Any ideas what I can do? I've implemented the changes described above so far.


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Chris Wright
Re: How to improve & tweak my audio for YT - audition newbie
on Jul 16, 2020 at 3:32:31 pm

sounds like too much noise reduction or de-reverb settings too high. you're getting artifacts. check on 'only hear noise' and you shouldn't hear any dialogue. it's better to have noise than chirpyness. I use light settings reductions by -6db, not 100% and start big FFT passes, then each consecutive pass has smaller and smaller FTT sizes. several lights passes can be better than one hard pass. once you hear your own voice with "only hear noise", back off one pass. you've gone too far.


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Harry Snell
Re: How to improve & tweak my audio for YT - audition newbie
on Jul 16, 2020 at 4:14:54 pm

Thanks Chris. I used the de-reverb on 45%.

So are you saying to use it several times on the effects rack?

And what's an FFT pass?


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Chris Wright
Re: How to improve & tweak my audio for YT - audition newbie
on Jul 16, 2020 at 5:22:34 pm

Fast Fourier Transformation
https://helpx.adobe.com/audition/using/noise-reduction-restoration-effects....
I apply it in the ui myself. you can use effects rack, but its a situation where you kinda need to look the graphical menu like I said and use 'hear noise only'.


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Harry Snell
Re: How to improve & tweak my audio for YT - audition newbie
on Jul 16, 2020 at 5:35:23 pm

Cool, thanks.

So you apply it to the wav file as a destructive filter rather than in the effects rack? Is that what you mean by UI?


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Chris Wright
Re: How to improve & tweak my audio for YT - audition newbie
on Jul 16, 2020 at 9:26:31 pm

you can put it in effects rack, but you'd have to open the sliders ui window and tweak it a bunch. I basically do this so I can tweak while listening in real-time.


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Harry Snell
Re: How to improve & tweak my audio for YT - audition newbie
on Jul 17, 2020 at 8:32:57 am

What do you mean by the sliders IU window? I'm still not very familiar with Audition.


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