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Carlos Silva
Boris Red5 on Vegas 11 - Delaying effect after rendering
on Jul 11, 2012 at 9:43:54 pm

Hi,

I applied Boris Red5 in a footage of 1280x720 / 59.940p.
After rendering the Boris effect (OpenGL/BBC lighting) was delayed in relation to video.
Actually, I render with 30p (not the original 59.940p).
After rendering with 59.940p Boris works great.
Is there any setting to be made to sync Boris with Vegas in a situation like that, in which the fps is different from the original footage?

Thanks!


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peter mcauley
Re: Boris Red5 on Vegas 11 - Delaying effect after rendering
on Jul 12, 2012 at 2:58:16 pm

Hi,

It may be that RED is not being handed the correct frame rate by the host. Try this:

• go to the clip to which you have applied the RED effect and enter the RED UI
• select Edit>Project Settings
• enable the option to manually set the Pixel dimensions, FPS and PAR
• manually set the FPS to 59.940
• click on the OK button to apply the change and re-render

I hope this helps.

Peter.



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Carlos Silva
Re: Boris Red5 on Vegas 11 - Delaying effect after rendering
on Jul 12, 2012 at 5:38:12 pm

Hi Peter,

Thanks for answering.

Actually, Boris is recognizing in the "project settings" the 59.940 fps from the footage.

My issue is that I am rendering the project using 29.970 fps, and then the delay is appearing in the rendered file.

I changed the Boris settings to 29.970 (on the original footage of 59.940) and then I rendered the project using this same 29.970 fps. The delay still appearing.

The only way Boris worked great was rendering with same fps of the footage (59.940). But sometimes there are projects in which footage with different fps is used. In this way, I would not know how to develop a project using Boris...

In "theory", would be possible to apply Boris on a footage of 59.940fps and render the project using different fps?


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peter mcauley
Re: Boris Red5 on Vegas 11 - Delaying effect after rendering
on Jul 12, 2012 at 5:52:28 pm

Hi Carlos,

I'm curious to find out if this is possible ... perhaps you could try.

• create a project at the desired FPS
• import the footage into that project (clip FPS different from the project)
• apply RED to a track above the footage
• create the effect
• render

Does this generate the correct result?

Thanks,

Peter.



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Carlos Silva
Re: Boris Red5 on Vegas 11 - Delaying effect after rendering
on Jul 12, 2012 at 6:55:48 pm

Hi Peter,

I made the test into Vegas.

Boris Red5 is able to handle different project settings.

There are a couple of important details to be observed:

1) The Boris fps "project settings" should be the same of the footage in which is being applied, even that the general Vegas project setting is different. I mean, footage = 60p, Boris = 60p, Vegas project = 30p. It seems Boris will follow the Vegas project setting (30p), so it will be necessary to change fps manually in Boris "project settings" (60p) to match the footage fps.

2) The Vegas project need to have same fps than the chosen render output fps. I mean, my former error (last email in this thread) was that I was setting the different fps just in the render settings, not in the project settings.

After I have followed what I mention in (1) and (2), I am obtaining a seamless integration between Vegas and Boris, even using different fps.

Bye,
Carlos


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